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2 Ork warboss on bike, atack squiq, PK, cyborg body, boss pole.
2 unit of 8 nobbiker and 1 painboy: 3 Pk, 2 Big Choppa, 2 combiskorcha, 1 combirocket, waagh banner, boss pole, so all are different.
2 battlewagons with 'ard case, killerkannon, grotrigger, red paint and 2 big shoota.
1 looted wagon with boomgun.

Total: 2005 points. We allowed 5 point more.

I included battlewagons and looted wagon mainly for new IG psykers. And this list has the idea to mainly charge opponent objectives and contest mine with the wagons. The other list I was thinking was taking out one nobbikers and warboss and include wazdakka, 2 units of 6 warbikers and 1 unit of deffcoptas. But my friend said nobbikers are just better than those small units of normal bikes. Want to know what does dakka community thinks.
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ive used nob bikers before although good if a good battle cannon shot hits them



Might be nice if you could squeeze in 2 boy squads in your battlewagons

but thats just me... watching 2 full battlewagons with boyz just dropping into ig ranks just always cracks me up ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/714927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/714927.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/714965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/714965.page GMT IG, eldar lock biker list, dark angel and necrons.

The new list is:

1 warboss with atack squiq, cybork body, bike, Power Klaw
1 warboss with atack squiq, cybork body, bike, Power Klaw
7 nobbikers and 1 painboy with 3 PK, 1 waagh banner, 1 bosspole, 2 big choppa, 2 combiskorcha
7 nobbikers and 1 painboy with 3 PK, 1 waagh banner, 1 bosspole, 2 big choppa, 2 combiskorcha
1 unit of 2 deffcoptas with TL rockit launcher
2 Battle waggon with 2 big shootas
2 unit of 10 lootas.

It is a pretty standar nobbiker list, but putting the lootas inside the battlewagons really made IG hard to kill and battlewagons makes cover for my bikes for 1 to 2 turns, enough for lootas to kill the PBS, rest is just turboboosting and charge.
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and 2 lootas + 2 battle wagons = 4 heavy support choices (only allowed 3)

necrons are going to chew through armor (all shooting rending) so your going to have to make sure that you go first =P]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722913.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722913.page GMT
each warboss allows a single unit of nobz to be taken as troops.

2 wagons + a looted wagon = 3 heavy support (basic maths)


they dont need armour saves as they all have 4+ cover saves due to the ork bike special rules.



very high performance power list, but at 2k points you have invested too much into the nobz.
you have 2 scoring units there, and most of the time they will be in combat so unable to fly off and grab objectives.

also, horde orks would destroy them.
bikernobz are good, but against massed attacks (like basic ork boyz) they tend to get chewed up pretty quickly.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722930.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722940.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722940.page GMT

drop a nob biker from each unit and take 2+ units of gretchin.
they may be easy to kill, but no one will be shooting them while there are nob bikers on the table.

they can run off and hold objectives while the bikers slaughter most things.



Also, dropping 1 warboss and taking wazdakka means you have some anti-tank shooting too.
you will lose a scoring unit of nobz, but they shouldnt be camping on objectives anyway.


mix in those ideas and it should be effective.



however, horde orks and gunline guard will still give alot of problems.
pod marines could also be trouble once they start dropping all over the place.
ironclads are enough to ruin your day since they will be hitting 1st with instant death no save attacks and normal initiative.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722945.page GMT
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also, there wont be much fire comming thier way due to the nobz cruising around and taking most of the fire.



also dont forget that gretchin are the most accurate things in the ork list
they may not have much range or strength, but massed shooting still kills things.
and they may even work out ok in combat ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722967.page GMT HQ, 2 troops, 2 heavy, 2 elite and 1 fast.

About the nobbikers, well they are not bad grabbing objectives. Against the eldar biker list, the eldar player was so scared of the 2 unit of lootas shooting them, they stay in a corner for 4 turns. Which is too late for him to grab objectives. And if you put objectives with 13 inches between them (you need to be more than 12), one unit of nobbiker can actually grab 2 and they are really hard to be killed when you turboboost and grab objective in the last turn.

The idea of gretchin to grab objectives might actually work, maybe I can replace the unit of deffcoptas for two unit of gretchin. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/722988.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723244.page GMT
But in the second revision of the list he drops the looted wagon for 2 units of lootas and still has 2 battle wagons so there's 4 support choices]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723274.page GMT
Edit: Also to reply your previous post, necron weapon are not rending, they only cause glance hit when they roll six. So they are not very good against vehicles in 5th edition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/723465.page GMT IG With Leman Russ squads, Eldar with Many Brite Lances and Dark Reapers to chew up the wagons and fliers.

I just can't see this list holding up against 2,000 points of guard or any cunning marine/eldar/tau players. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/725768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/725768.page GMT IG list with PBS. And lootas are there to shoot PBS, or let PBS concentrate on them and let my nobbikers charge for next turn.

And I am still testing this list. May have more changes before the tournament starts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/725802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240007/725802.page GMT