<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750
(190) Vulkan

(210) 10 Tactical Marines; Flamer, Multi Melta; Razorback

(205) 10 Tactical Marines; Flamer, Multi Melta; Rhino

(205) 10 Tactical Marines; Flamer, Multi Melta; Rhino

(70) Land Speeder; Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer

(70) Land Speeder; Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer

(70) Land Speeder; Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer

(200) 5 Assault Terminators; Thunder Hammers, Storm Shields

(265) Land Raider Redeemer; Multi-Melta, Extra Armor

(265) Land Raider Redeemer; Multi-Melta, Extra Armor


36 Infantry, 8 Vehicles. Up to 6 scoring units (combat squads), including a scoring LR.

Everything has a transport, Vulkan usually sticks with the Termis.

Updated a bit since original posting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/717835.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/717835.page GMT Re:Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750 MM Attack Bikes. Yes, they provide fast, mobile MM that can help take out tanks, but they are the only non-tank in your army, so every single anti-infantry shot your opponent has is going to be shot at them, meaning they won't last very long. They are just too big a threat that is too easy to shoot down, especially since everything else is hiding behind a Choo-Choo train of land raiders.

My only suggestion would be to drop the 2 Attack bikes, add another speeder (in 2 squadrons of 2), and give all 4 Speeders heavy Flamers as well as Multimeltas. That way they can threaten everything (mech and horde) and represent a pretty significant threat to the whole board with their mobility and 2 squadrons (Plus the Flamers work even better since you have Vulkan).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718329.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750 http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718360.page GMT Re:Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750 ig. Would love to know how you do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718378.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718378.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750 MC's have to doll a 6 instead of auto hitting you.

I personally always try to have a libby with vulkan for psychic defence & null zone. However I tend to play in enviroments where lots of players bring twin lash, eldar, and now PBS IG.

However, if you don't want a libby here is a list I'd try:

Vulkan
5 th/ss assault terminators in a redeemer with extra armor & a multi melta
10 man tac squad with flamer & multi Melta in a rhino
10 man tac squad with flamer & multi Melta in a rhino
5 man sqout squad with combat blades sgt has a combi melta & power fist
Mount them up in a multi Melta Land speeder storm
2 multi melta attack bikes
2 Multi Melta/Heavy flamer land speeder squad
Redeemer with multi melta & extra armor

This way if you get first turn you scout the land speeder storm forward with the scouts. You should be able to get off a multi melta shot from it & either a first turn assault from the scout squad or a combi melta shot.

If you are going second just outflank or deepstrike the storm for late game fun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718427.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750 http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718516.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750
asugradinwa wrote:I personally always try to have a libby with vulkan for psychic defence & null zone. However I tend to play in enviroments where lots of players bring twin lash, eldar, and now PBS IG.


Lash and a PBS don't really matter when your whole army is in tanks. You can't lash a vehicle, so just melta the DPs and call it a day. Similarly for the PBS, you can't be targeted in the Transports, so just make sure to pop their Chimera (with your infinite melta) and light them up like a Christmas tree before you are forced out of your tanks, and you shouldn't really have too much of a problem.

Seer Council could prove problematic, but not really because of the psychic abilities, more because of the S9 CC attacks that can do a number on your rhinos.

Taking a Libby means you're spending an extra 100 points on things that aren't Meltas or Flamers, and where are you going to put him? If you put him with Vulcan and the Terminators, now you're looking at 740 Points concentrated in one place, which has a gigantic "KILL ME" sign on it. Or you put him with the Tac Squad in the other LR, and then he's just sort of a 100 point piece of wargear against one army. Plus, while the Seer Council can be painful, the rest of the Eldar army is absolutely Terrified of Heavy Flamers that can reroll to wound.

To be fair, I haven't had the opportunity (horror?) to play against a PBS yet, so I might be underestimating their effectiveness against Mech. The Extra Armor would definitely be a good thing, though I'm not 100% sure where to find the points for it, since his list is extremely efficient and quite powerful as it is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718539.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718539.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750
I don't know where to find points for extra armor without losing too much of the speed. I would like to cram it in for both LRs somehow. I could drop to 3 Speeders, which gives me enough to also field a Razorback (which offers a tad more anti-horde, as well as more versatility with combat squads.)

Thoughts on:
(-100) -2 Attack Bikes
(30) Each speeder gets a Heavy Flamer
(30) Extra Armor on both LRs
(40) Razorback
?

I think I like this better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718561.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/718561.page GMT Competitive Space Marines Mechanized 1750
Tri lascannon vendettas and other IG heavy support options such as bastion break meducas can open up rhinos and even Land raiders with ease. (str 10 Ap1 2d6 dice will be rolling 5+ most of the time so going first to get those smoke launchers off is more important)

Null zone also helps when playing against eldar & chaos who tend to have inv saves opposed to armor saves.

However, a libby isn't needed in all cases, I just like having one available.
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It can be done by
(-40) -1 Razorback
(-70) -1 Land speeder
(10) Upgrade 1 Redeemer to a LR or LR:Crusader.
(100) Librarian

I'm hesitant to cut down two vehicles for the librarian, who will probably be with the Termis anyhow, lots of eggs in one basket.

Thoughts?
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asugradinwa wrote:Lash is a problem due to the fact that it almost always involves running a list with 5-9 oblits that can lascannon and pop rhino at 48 inches away.


If the other army is 48 inches away then they probably aren't in Lash range. Even so, you can hide behind the tank, or move your other Rhinos up to deny line of sight (mobile terrain). Mechanized armies have always been and will always be difficult for lash Chaos to deal with.

Null zone also helps when playing against eldar & chaos who tend to have inv saves opposed to armor saves.


Mechanized armies already trounce Daemon lists. If you want psychic defense simply take an allied Inquisitor with psychic hood so you aren't limited to 24" range. You can pick up mystics for deep strike defense and Sanctuary to guarantee a free objective versus Daemon armies.
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Vulkan

2 Tact & Scouts

9 Speeders with MM/HF

2 Dreads with MM/CCW

Was awesome - I think you need more speeders...

My triple LRs 'really' liked playing that list - everything was dead before turn 1:(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/730938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/240227/730938.page GMT