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So these are the most viable lists that I have been able to come up with

A Dred Bash 1750

HQ
Mek with KFF 85
Mek with KFF 85
I feel that having two of these isn't necessarily necessary and would free up points

Elites
12 lootas 180
12 lootas 180

Total 360

Troops
30 slugga boyz nob PK, 215
30 slugga boyz, nob PK, 215
30 shoota boyz, nob PK, 215
30 shoota boyz, nob PK, 215

Total 860

The backbone of the army 120 Boys
Total

Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Total 360

Total 1750

B Dred Bash 1750

Mek with KFF 85

Mek with KFF 85

Elites
12 lootas180
12 lootas180

Total 360

Troops
Deff Dread Dreadnought 4 CCW 105
Deff Dread Dreadnought 4 CCW 105
20 slugga boyz nob PK, 155
20 slugga boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155

Total 830

The backbone of the army 80 Boys
Total

Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Total 360

Total 1720 Still some points available to spend


C Dred Bash 1750

Mek with KFF 85

Elites
12 lootas180
12 lootas180

Total 360

Troops
20 slugga boyz nob PK, 155
20 slugga boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155
20 shoota boyz, nob PK, 155

Total 930

The backbone of the army 120 Boys
Total

Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Killercan 3x120 Skorcha or Big Shoota
Total 360

Total 1735 Still some points available to spend

As always your suggestions and input is very much appreciated ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733313.page GMT
Two KFF could be better than you think. You could also take a SAG for some real shooting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733326.page GMT KFF is fine.

i ran the dredbash for 6 months straight, prolly 40+ games including second place in a tourney with them. my list was very similar to yours.

i suggest shoota boyz, they really are bank in the new book. my lists were always made for 1850, but the backbone is the boyz. i would run 3 units of 30 with a PK nob and 3 big shootas. make the kan wall up front, then put the orks behind the kans, the KFF in the center unit, making sure all 3 kan squads and 3 mobs are within 6 inches.

i run snikrot with at least 9 kommandos and 2 burnas, these are the ace in the whole for screwin with backfield units/arty/devs.

im not sold on lootas, ive never been. alot of people swear by them, but i think thye are sort of a crutch. they are static and fragile. you dont have a big mek to babysit them so they dont have a bosspole and all it takes is a few shots to force a LD test. psyker squad will eat these guys alive once a few drop, the psykers will drop there LD to nothing then either pin them with snipers or somethign else neasty.

i would use the points you have in lootas for more boyz, stormboy squads for flank movements (dont forget your PK nob) or ghazzie.

here is my 1850 dredbash i ran with for quite some time:

Ghaz
Mek w/ KFF EA and Cybork

30 shoota boyz, 3 BS, Nob with PK and pole
30 shoota boyz, 3 BS, Nob with PK and pole
30 shoota boyz, 3 BS, Nob with PK and pole

10 stormboyz with Non PK and bosspole
10 kommandos with snikrot and 2 burnas

3 kans, rokkits
3 kans, rokkits
3 kans, rokkits

i won alot of games with this, and its an enjoyable list. towards the end i dropped 3 stormboyz to fit in 10 grots as a rear objective holder. there was still enough stormboyz to let the mob survive for a round of PK swinging goodness. i usually used the stormboyz to attack tanks or weak flanker units.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/241370/733801.page GMT