<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1K CSM Amry"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1K CSM Amry CSM i was shocked. They are totaly differet than my. Mostly they use DP with MoN or MoS, Wings and WT, sometimes GD, and almoast always Berserkers like a troops. What was the most suprised for me was that no one use Defilers!
Look at my Army list and tell what you think.

HQ
Chaos Lord, Terminator Armor, Powerfist, combi-melta (135)

TROOPS
5x Plague Marines, Rhino + Havoc louncher (165)
5x Plague Marines, Rhino + Havoc louncher (165)

HEAVY SUPPORT
Defiler, Havoc louncher (155)
Defiler, Havoc louncher (155)

3x Obliterators (225)

Sometimes when I am fighting vs SM or Necrons I remove Havoc luoncher from 1 Defiler and for this 5points I improve Lord's Powerfist to Chainfist.
Waht do you think about this?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746509.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746509.page GMT 1K CSM Amry

HQ
Chaos Lord, Terminator Armor, Powerfist, combi-melta (135)

No mark? He needs a mark, marks are cheap and make you much better.
Also: Why does he have terminator armor? You have no terminators in your list, which means he is going to get shot down easily.

TROOPS
5x Plague Marines, Rhino + Havoc louncher (165)
5x Plague Marines, Rhino + Havoc louncher (165)

Pretty standard there, Increase them to 2 squads of 10, drop the Havoc Launcher, you want that rhino ALWAYS moving 12" Give them a Melta or something.

HEAVY SUPPORT
Defiler, Havoc louncher (155)
Defiler, Havoc louncher (155)

3x Obliterators (225)

Drop Both Defilers, you need those points for your troops, ESPECIALLY at 1k. The Oblits will take care of all your heavy support needs at this points level.
If you must keep the defilers, nix the havocs, they look good on paper, but a twin linked Heavy Flamer is simply better, hands down.
At 1500 you could probably keep them without trouble.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746530.page GMT Re:1K CSM Amry CSM codex, some choices are very obviously more powerful than others. DPs and sorcerers are far better than lords for example. Likewise cult marines are better than CSM and oblits ae better than all of the other heavy support. Most people than want to build competitive CSM (unfortunately) have to stick to this pattern because so much in the CSM codex is terrible.

To make your army more competitive list drop both of defilers (they're not really that good), get an extra oblit (I find two squads of two to be enough at 1000pts) and spend the rest on plague marines. You should also get some upgrades for your plague marines, 2 meltas and a powerfist champion is probably the best setup. If you drop the havoc launchers on your rhinos you will have some extra points to spend on changing your lord to a DP with wings.

People will complain that this is a cookie-cutter build (one that is very similar to lots of others), and theyre right, but there is so little to work with in the CSM codex that competitive players have to work with what they can get.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746800.page GMT 1K CSM Amry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746946.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/746946.page GMT 1K CSM Amry HS heavy.
A Chaos Lord eventually dies from a power fist, and two small scoring units are not enough. Even 5 Plague Marines die when they have to disembark or crawl out of a wreck. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/747121.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/242334/747121.page GMT