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				<description><![CDATA[ Infantry platoon:- what has the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> got to do with deploying? <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Basically I've been play testing a few <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> armies and every time I deploy an Infantry platoon I wonder what on earth is meant by "Each <i>Infantry platoon counts as a single Troop choice on the force organisation chart when deploying</i>, and is rolled for collectively when rolling for reserves." It would make perfect sense without "when deploying". <br /> <br /> When deploying for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DoW</span> you deploy 2 troop + 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> units. My only thought is "<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>" should be "unit" but sadly <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> failed to write that. If any one could tell me what I'm missing I'd be grateful.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice.<br /> A Unit is a Unit.<br /> The two are not the same.<br /> <br /> For <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DoW</span>, you get 2 Troops Units, not two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choices.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Alerian wrote:</cite>A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice.<br /> A Unit is a Unit.<br /> The two are not the same.<br /> <br /> For <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DoW</span>, you get 2 Troops Units, not two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choices.</div></blockquote><br /> .... thank you for repeating what I said. The Question was what has the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> got to do with deployment?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In the current rulebook standard scenarios, absolutely nothing. However, to steal a line from the Witch Hunter <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> (re Liber Heresius):<br /> However, there are plenty of other missions where it will still work, such as many of those in Cities of Death, in White Dwarf or those written by tournament organisers for use in their events.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Tri wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Alerian wrote:</cite>A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choice.<br /> A Unit is a Unit.<br /> The two are not the same.<br /> <br /> For <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DoW</span>, you get 2 Troops Units, not two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choices.</div></blockquote><br /> .... thank you for repeating what I said. The Question was what has the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> got to do with deployment?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Nothing....period.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> choices and Units are two seperate things.<br /> <br /> My first post was pretty clear about that fact.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:23:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Fair enough. Another example of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> fine rule writing skills. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:04:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Don't worry about it.  You are not the first person to be confused about it, and you certainly won't be the last. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only think the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> has to do with deployment (in the standard Missions anyway) is letting you know which units you might decide to deploy in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DoW</span>. Nothing else really.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:09:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Infantry platoon:- what has the FOC got to do with deploying?  </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> has multiple "independent" units in a single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>. Squadrons, for example, are a unit but can also be a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> too. This can be confusing when it comes down to games. You have to pay close attention to the wording in the game rules.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I actually had this come up in a game earlier today as I was playing my brand new 500 pts of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> for the first time (victory!) against a guy playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AoBR</span> Orks. We rolled <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> and I asked the redshirt in the store if in deploying 2 troops choices meant I could deploy the entire platoon as one troops unit. He said yes, the ENTIRE platoon counts as one troops unit. <br /> <br /> We ended up switching to spearhead since we are both new to the gaming aspect of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, but I'd like to see this addressed in an errata/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> soon (wishful thinking)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 5 Jun 2009 06:18:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>unclehomefries wrote:</cite>I actually had this come up in a game earlier today as I was playing my brand new 500 pts of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> for the first time (victory!) against a guy playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(505);'>AoBR</span> Orks. We rolled <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> and I asked the redshirt in the store if in deploying 2 troops choices meant I could deploy the entire platoon as one troops unit. He said yes, the ENTIRE platoon counts as one troops unit. <br /> <br /> We ended up switching to spearhead since we are both new to the gaming aspect of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, but I'd like to see this addressed in an errata/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> soon (wishful thinking)</div></blockquote><br /> And he would be right if this was the last codex. The new codex does nothing to make them deploy together. I started this thread to see if i was missing a rule, to do with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> and deploying. I wasn't, they've nothing in common.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tell your redshirt he is an idiot and to lrn2play40k <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Aside from everyone generally agreeing that the red shirt was an idiot (remind me to tell you the time I played one who thought it was fun to play a morghor chaos spawn beastman army with 40+ chaos spawns) , what I think the book is referring to is deploying from reserve/outflank.  meaning that for the purposes of deploying in a special manor, I.E. reserve or outflank, then you roll once for the whole infantry platoon instead of unit by unit like it says on page 36 of the dex.  In other words the dex is actually clarifying the rule instead of leaving it ambiguous.<br /> <br /> Edit: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 36]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes but it reads much better with out "when deploying" ...<br /> <br /> "Each Infantry platoon counts as a single Troop choice on the force organisation chart and is rolled for collectively when rolling for reserves." <br /> <br /> ... See no mention of deployment and it still makes sense within your context <br /> <br /> Edit it would also make more sense if they left out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> then they could deploy at the same time...<br /> <br /> "Each Infantry platoon counts as a single Troop choice when deploying, and is rolled for collectively when rolling for reserves."<br /> <br /> ... but that's not what we've got.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You can still start <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> w/ over 100 men on the board, so it's not total loss for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Just merge two 50 man platoons, two units of troops and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> to give them both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(401);'>BiD</span>! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm pulling this from my memory, but doesn't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> say "You may place up to 2 Troops and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice at the begining of the game."  <br /> <br /> This would indicate the amount deployable would actualy be based on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mars.Techpriest wrote:</cite>I'm pulling this from my memory, but doesn't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> say "You may place up to 2 Troops and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice at the begining of the game."  <br /> <br /> This would indicate the amount deployable would actualy be based on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span></div></blockquote>Close but no Cigar. It says you may place one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <b>Unit </b> and two Troops <b>units</b>. This means things that dont take up an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FoC</span> Selection but still "count as" that selection (such as: The Emperors Champion [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>], Dedicated Transports [Selection of the Unit it was Bought For], Summoned lesser Daemons [Troops], New <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> priests [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>])]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mars.Techpriest wrote:</cite>I'm pulling this from my memory, but doesn't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(324);'>DOW</span> say "You may place up to 2 Troops and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice at the begining of the game."  <br /> <br /> This would indicate the amount deployable would actualy be based on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span></div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> No it is "units" specifically. The example given is of a Tactical Squad inside their Rhino being both Troops units available for Deployment.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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