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				<description><![CDATA[ First List:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Captain Lysander<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Dreadnought with assault cannon, and drop pod with locator beacon<br /> Terminator squad with heavy flamer<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical Squad 10 marines, flamer, and missle launcher<br /> Tactical Squad 10 marines, meltagun, multimelta, meltabombs (sergeant only)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Whirlwind<br /> <br /> Total 1000 Points<br /> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /> Second List:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Captain Lysander<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> Terminator Squad with heavy flamer<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical Squad 10 man with multimelta, and meltagun<br /> Tactical Squad 10 man with missle launcher, and flamer<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Land Raider Redeemer with pintle mounted multimelta<br /> <br /> Total 1000 points<br /> <br /> Trying to come up with a new list to use.  My first tournament with my marines resulted in a resounding 0 and 3 and I'm trying a completely new build with these guys.  Any input is welcome.  Thanks in advance.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 01:36:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Malladrius]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2 Different 1000 Point SM lists which is better?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The second one defenantly but depends on the situation.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 01:47:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kogwar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really like the first one, but I would drop the Whirlwind and give the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads rhinos.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:08:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Canonness Rory]]></author>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 02:33:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EasyE]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2 Different 1000 Point SM lists which is better?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It depends on the situation. If you want an army which is stoic, as would fit the background of the IFs, then take list 1. However, if you prefer the fluid gaming style of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span>, then take list 2.<br /> <br />   <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:19:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ extermikator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In my opinion take the second one.<br /> The redeemer is more effective against most targets and will allow your termies and Lysander to get to the front quicker.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 7 Jun 2009 14:47:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ yani]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2 Different 1000 Point SM lists which is better?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the input I am going to playtest the second list first and see how it goes.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:13:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Malladrius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Malladrius wrote:</cite><br /> Second List:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Captain Lysander<br /> <br /> Elite:<br /> Terminator Squad with heavy flamer<br /> <font color='red'>Change these to Assault Terminators w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> the reason being that a 2+normal/3+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>inv</span> save is just awesome!</font><br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> Tactical Squad 10 man with multimelta, and meltagun<br /> Tactical Squad 10 man with missle launcher, and flamer<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Land Raider Redeemer with pintle mounted multimelta<br /> <font color='red'>I wish there was a way to make this a normal Land Raider but you don't have any points to move around really unless you change the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>.<br /> </font><br /> Total 1000 points<br /> <br /> Trying to come up with a new list to use.  My first tournament with my marines resulted in a resounding 0 and 3 and I'm trying a completely new build with these guys.  Any input is welcome.  Thanks in advance.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:23:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ drummerholt1234]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2 Different 1000 Point SM lists which is better?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I agree change those around to Assault Terminators [not marines]. Land raiders do not have firing points, so those ranged weapons will be mostly useless.<br /> <br /> Personally, I like the Redeemer and Crusader better than the standard land raider.<br /> <br /> I use a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with my 7 man + captain terminator assault squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:55:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dracos]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I meant terminators <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>!  But the reason I like the normal Land raider is the lascannons because you may see some small mech armies with the ability to just circle your army and pick it apart.  Sure you have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> but with only 24" range on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and a S8 on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> it will only go so far.  But a lascannon can penetrate anything even a Monolith that 1 extra strength goes a long way!  Its like the different between a power armour save and a terminator armour save.  Just my personal opinion I still think it's an awesome list and the redeemer is a great tank!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 9 Jun 2009 04:07:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ drummerholt1234]]></author>
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