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yesterday I talked with my mate about armour saves of characters and I asked myself:
The rules states that an Weapon, which has an magical effect, loses its "normale" rule.

And though...when I have a magic HW and a normal shield - do i get the +1 armoursave in CC for fighting with HW and shield?

The same thing: Do I get the +1 in CC, when i've got a magic shield and a normal HW?
And: Do I get the +1 in CC, when ive got a magic shield and a magic HW?

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Normal HW+Shield= +2 to sv in cc.
Magic weapon+Shield= +1 to sv in cc.
Normal HW+Magic Shield= +2 to sv in cc]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760910.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760910.page GMT Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield?
Mekboy wrote:Basically,

Normal HW+Shield= +2 to sv in cc.
Magic weapon+Shield= +1 to sv in cc.
Normal HW+Magic Shield= +2 to sv in cc


Having a magical weapon makes your save worse than a normal weapon?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760938.page GMT Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield?
Pg 121 of the BRB:
'Magic weapons always ignore any special rules that apply to an ordinary weapon of the same type unless otherwise specified in the description of the item.'

That means no HW+shield bonus and no fighting with two hand weapons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760966.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/760966.page GMT Re:Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/761019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/761019.page GMT Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield?
In 6th ed you also didn’t get the extra bonus with a magical shield, but they removed that restriction in 7th. This makes the Enchanted Shield a particularly nice piece of kit for a character on foot.
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Mekboy wrote:Basically,

Normal HW+Shield= +2 to sv in cc.
Magic weapon+Shield= +1 to sv in cc.
Normal HW+Magic Shield= +2 to sv in cc


This is sort of counter intuitive, as this would mean that a magic shield is, in effect, useless, unless your weapon is magical too. At the same time, I can't recall any rules about the shield losing its normal properties by being made magical, only weapons.

I believe it would be as follows (in close combat):
Mundane HW + Mundane Shield = +2
Mundane HW + Magic Shield = +3
Magic Weapon + Mundane Shield = +1
Magic Weapon + Magic Shield = +2]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765526.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765526.page GMT Re:Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765796.page GMT Re:Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? WoC army book, the magic shields (not common items) say in their first line "Shield." followed by what it does...

Exp:

Runeshield:
"Shield. blah blah blah your magic weapons don't do diddily."

this would lead me to think it would work with a hand weapon for +2 to armor save, while enchanted shields are more for those who want +armor and also already have a magic weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765814.page GMT Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/765918.page GMT Re:Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? FaQ say that you get the parry bonus for hand weapon and enchanted shield? (i.e. +3 in cc)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/779019.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/779019.page GMT Magic Handweapon+Shield/ HW+Magic Shield? cc save. Using an enchanted shield does indeed bump that up to a +3.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/779235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243188/779235.page GMT