<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Looking for a little Eldar/IG help"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Looking for a little Eldar/IG help Thanks!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761613.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761625.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
That's what I started out with and it's pretty destructive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761711.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761774.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help MEQ armies out there, the power weapons are gold. I enjoy them, and if you want to go with them, by all means do.

You can go with a Fire Prism as some have suggested, but I've found their not needed to field a decent Eldar army. I own one, never have used it, and have a pretty good win ratio.

There is no set way to play Eldar. Their good with many differant combinations, in many differant ways.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761799.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761799.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
If you like scorpions, try this:

Karandras

2 boxes of scorpions

2 boxes of pathfinders.

You'd have a pretty fun little all-infiltrating army until you figured out a direction you'd like to go in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761952.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
So...

1x Farseer

1x Striking Scorpion Squad

1x DA squad in Wave Serpent
1x Guardian Squad with Warlock in Wave Serpent

1x War Walker
1x Fire Prism

Is a very healthy Mechanized Eldar core, and uses the most models out of the battleforce as well as a minimum number of extra purchases. Don't forget magnets for all your vehicle weapons, and the guardian's platform.

1x Battleforce
1x Farseer + warlocks box
1x Fire Prism
1x Wave Serpent
1x Striking Scorpions box

About 200 dollars or so for 1000 points, fully mechanized. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761986.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/761986.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help IG question?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762056.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
whitedragon wrote:The battleforce is a really good core for eldar. Guardians are not terrible, just Dire Avengers are better. The battleforce plus an additional wave serpent gives you a very nice core for a mech force. The war walker that comes with the 'force can be sold on ebay or used to mess around with. Outflanking war walkers are a really good choice.

So...

1x Farseer

1x Striking Scorpion Squad

1x DA squad in Wave Serpent
1x Guardian Squad with Warlock in Wave Serpent

1x War Walker
1x Fire Prism

Is a very healthy Mechanized Eldar core, and uses the most models out of the battleforce as well as a minimum number of extra purchases. Don't forget magnets for all your vehicle weapons, and the guardian's platform.

1x Battleforce
1x Farseer + warlocks box
1x Fire Prism
1x Wave Serpent
1x Striking Scorpions box

About 200 dollars or so for 1000 points, fully mechanized.


You're forgetting that the battleforce only comes with 5 dire avengers. Also, if there's another troop that's better in the same book, it kind of makes one troop terrible by default, and yes, especially when compared to troops units from other codices, Guardian Defenders are bottom-of-the-barrel. Gaunts are better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762059.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help Guardians are not worth the crunch except, MABYE, the weopons you can but in thier squads. And even then they're only BS 3.

If you like Striking Scorpions then definitle go with willdstyle's recommended list. It's a completely legal army, entirely infiltrating and gives your army a fantastic theme! The Shadow Army or something...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762097.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
Emperors Faithful wrote:I agree with willydstyle here.
Guardians are not worth the crunch except, MABYE, the weopons you can but in thier squads. And even then they're only BS 3.

If you like Striking Scorpions then definitle go with willdstyle's recommended list. It's a completely legal army, entirely infiltrating and gives your army a fantastic theme! The Shadow Army or something...


Well, it's themed for sure, but the big (and I mean HUGE!) problem is the complete lack of anti-tank, except via CC with Scorpions Claws, and/or Biting Blades.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762101.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762104.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762104.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
Emperors Faithful wrote:Hmmm, your right there. But you can TRY to ignore the bigger vehicles (Monoliths and Land Raiders etc) and go for the light vehichles with your rangers. They are rending right?


Yeah, but the chance for any individual shot to rend is pretty low, and they can't even pen AV 12, though the fact they can get AP1 does help for anti-light-vehicle duty, it's not reliable at all.

You could go for some war-walkers for anti-tank, they've got scouts which is fairly themed, but to be honest the only really good anti-tank in the Eldar book is fire dragons, which would be hard to fit into an all-infiltrating foot-guard list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762110.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762110.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
But you're right. It is a problem. What kind of anti-tank weapons can you put on a War-Walker?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762116.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
So, unlike most snipers, they can get AP1 rends which can pen up to armor 11, and glance armor 12, however, they're not super-likely to do do either. It's one of those "don't got anything else to shoot at so I guess I'll try this" situations.

You can put EMLs which are pretty good up to AV13, or Bright Lances on Warwalkers, though a unit with Bright Lances is very expensive, and very fragile.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762126.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help By the way thanks for that info on pathfinders. My brother has used that rule on me for ages.

Anyway. This is where you draw the line. How far are you willing to go for the sake of a theme. Never forget that a theme is extremely important to an army.
And in small battles it is REALLY tough to fit in AV13 or 14 vehichles.

Also pathfinders are all but impossible to root out of covered areas without flamers.


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Hey!
I've just had a flash of inspiration!

What if you also get a Wraithlord, yet don it up or paint it so that it looks stealthy?

Wraithlords are piloted by the spirits of dead warriors, no?
Then what is to say that that warrior spirit didn't belong to a striking scorpion?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/762131.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
Nerf_IG wrote:Wait, what was the IG question?


Wasent sure on which to choose when I started the thread and decided this would be only about the Eldar, sorry about that.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/763990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/763990.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
Wraithlords have move through cover, and can have twin-flamers, both of which are invaluable in heavy terrain.

I figured war-walkers would also fit as they have Scouts and can outflank.

Here is a 1750 army I thought of based on infiltrating, outflanking, and deepstriking:

Autarch, fusion gun, warp spider jump pack, mandiblasters, power weapon

Autarch, same as above

10 striking scorpions, exarch w/ move through cover, infiltrate, power fist

10 striking scorpions, same as above

5 pathfinders

5 pathfinders

5 pathfinders

2 war walkers w/ 4 bright lancces

2 war walkers, same as above

6 warp spiders, exarch w/ twin deathspinner, powerblades, withdraw

6 warp spiders same as above.

Autarchs go with warp spiders.

Reserves will arrive on turn two a lot of the time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764018.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764018.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
I'm thinking about:

Karandras

2 boxes of scorpions

2 boxes of Rangers (Pathfinders are rangers right?)

1 Wraithlord

Is there any leader that could be used for the Rangers? I'm coming up with the background and making them really dark/stealthy like stated before maybe using brown. Thanks again for all the help everyone : )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764034.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764034.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
If you are going to use wraithlords, you'll need a warlock, so a farseer with a warlock squad could be nice and thematically appropriate.

There really is no Ranger-oriented HQ.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764380.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764526.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764526.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
You can also upgrade a warlock to be a "spiritseer" and the range is increased to 12".

Pathfinders and rangers are the same models unless you want to get fancy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764530.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764530.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
With that list you've got there it's awesome that, whether you get first turn or second turn, the enemy has no idea where you are deploying. (as you can infiltrate in your own deployment zone I would imagine)

The one weakness is that the Wraithlord would be there so they would posistion there anti-Wraithlord stuff in front of it. This could also be an advantage as you have a rough idea as to where they are going to be deploying said stuff.


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On seeing your spiritseer argument. Mabye one warlock...
Just mabye...One...
But it's also cool as witchblades are often underestimated.
(Who do you think they will be aiming at?)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764536.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
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Farseer+Warlocks+Fortune=major pain in the backside for your opponent. Doom is there to multiply the pain on whatever unit is giving you the most problems.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764813.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help
J.Black wrote:Yes. What you posted plus that box would give you a sneaky infiltrating army, with a very tough centre. Don't go crazy with the farseer's wargear, fortune, doom, and spirit stones should be enough.

Farseer+Warlocks+Fortune=major pain in the backside for your opponent. Doom is there to multiply the pain on whatever unit is giving you the most problems.


Thanks, awesome job painting those Scorpions How hard were those to paint? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/764844.page GMT Looking for a little Eldar/IG help http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/769038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243270/769038.page GMT