<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Sluggas or Shootas?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Sluggas or Shootas? Pros and cons of each ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761672.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761690.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761690.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas?
Now look, the next thread will be called "Should I keep making threads to ask one-liner questions?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761714.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
Fatontoast wrote:My suggestion would be to read the codex and then outline your own thoughts on the above question. Then further ask people to discuss their own opinions on the matter. With 4 new topics in as little as 10 minutes it says to me "I couldn't be bothered reading the codex so tell me what to do" a little iniative and effort goes a long way into making practical and useful discussion threads

I have to agree,take some time to read the codex,look over the avaliable units for each section on the FOC,decide witch units YOU feel you would like to include in your army& why,then,if you still feel unsure one way or another post for advice on particular units,including why YOU think they would be worth taking.
The way you've posted you might as well have stated "Build my Ork army for me".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761732.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761732.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas? Second, I did read the codex, I just didnt want to anger other people with my opinions, but first I should probably get something clarified.
Does taking the shoota reduce the orks number of cc attacks to one? cause otherwise shootas seem overwhelmingly more powerfull.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761744.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? That being said,yes,shootas "reduce" the number of attacks you get in CC.
Also,you should'nt worry about making people angry with your opinions..unless of course your opinion is that they should hit themselves in the face with an ax or somthing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761756.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas? hmmm now im really confused on which to take. Currently I have sluggas...
so heres my list of pros/cons for each

sluggas
pros: 2 attacks using 4 str and 4 toughness; cheap cc beast
cons: crap armour; die really fast

shootas
pros:2 shots and uber cheap
cons: bs2 and only 1 cc attack; this seems to waste orks natural cc domination just to take up their weakness....

conclusion: with sluggas, a massive horde seems to be the answer, and shootas still can pump out a lot of shots, sooooooo I guess it really depends on the army]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761798.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? IMO it's good to have a mix of both units,but yes it does really depends on the type of army your going for.
In my own army I use a sqaud of shoota boyz to "camp" on objectives while my slugga boyz get into cc as quickly as possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761814.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761814.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761818.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
Mostly your BS is going to sit around 2 or 3, however this is compensated by having large numbers of shots

You will mostly be striking at a reasonabley low iniative making power claws an attractive option for CC units

Your troops are cheap, apart from guard and nids you will nearly always outnumber your opponent allowing you to absorb casualties other armys would cringe at.

Other than that pick units you like make a few army lists and post them with some explinations of why I choose unit A etc etc you will find in some armys they have fluffy units that are considered worthless (sisters repentia anyone) at this point people will suggest oh in this situation i use unit x or unit y can be used in these different ways.

Final advice: use the search feature on the forums odds are many of your questions will have been answered on previous posts as well as it popping up army lists that might help you construct your own list, finally this game isnt just about winning (shock horror) if you can make a fluffy force that you genuinely enjoy playing even if its considered to be an "unpowered" list through practice and perseverance you will eventually end up winning a fair chunck of games]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761903.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
That's always the answer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761940.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/761940.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas? CC, no matter what they're armed with. Sluggas get an additional for having a pistol and a CCW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762043.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
the standard GW rules applies, things that sucked last codex (the shoota boy) now rock. i used to run sluggas, now its shootas.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762049.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
Pros
Better shooting than Sluggas.
Are still quite decent in CC.
Good amount of Shots

Cons
Not as good in CC
They still die like flies to other shooting.
AP 6 ain't killing much


Sluggas:
Pros
CC Beast with A4 on the charge
They can get into CC fairly Quickly thanks to Run
They can take more casualties than Shootas and still remain effective

Cons
Lack of armor means they die like flies
Dependent on charges
Can be outmaneuvered easily ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762090.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/762090.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas? like everything ork boyz except kff and warboss, or could a nobs mob fit in an ork boy swarm?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763466.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763478.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763478.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas?
Indominork7 wrote:another question: how many sluggas are neccesary for a decent ork boy horde in a range of 750, 1500, and 2000 point lists?
like everything ork boyz except kff and warboss, or could a nobs mob fit in an ork boy swarm?

Well,if your foot sloging then you don't want to take less than 20 boyz in a mob (19 boyz + Nob with PK & BP),I go with full streagth mobz of slugga boyz(29 boyz +Nob) and don't bother with rokkitz or Big shootaz in slugga mobz as you don't want to waste time shooting with them you want them in cc asap.
IMO Nobz sqauds fit into ANY Ork armybut that may just be my own bias. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/763494.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas?
In a trukk or battlewagon - sluggas, you'll get the charge off easy so the melee is more effective.

In a Horde - shootas, the extra shot and range adds up in slow moving hordes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767718.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767751.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
Its a very nice mobile platform, that once in range can dish out a lot of firepower.
Also, while they may not be sluggas, 20 shootas charging from an open topped BW is still a lot of dice like pain.

As for unit size. Generally unless the sluggas are trukk bound, then 20+ is the general unit size for foot sloggin' boyz.

As for shootas, its my opinion that they should always be at least 20 strong. As its been mentioned, they are good 'camper' units for objectives.. plus, you need the numbers for the sheer amount of shooting, and the increased chances of hits. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767779.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/767779.page GMT Sluggas or Shootas?
Jack]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/768902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/768902.page GMT Re:Sluggas or Shootas? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/768919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/243278/768919.page GMT