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				<description><![CDATA[ I am just starting to create a new chapter of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> and have always been drawn towards the Salamanders for their noble nature but I want to make a chapter of my own.  I know that they don't have any known Second Founding chapters but does this mean their gene-seed was never used at all in subsequent foundings?  Also, I believe that their black skin/red eyes is caused by the gene seed's reaction to the high levels of radiation in Nocturne's inhabitants, so I assume that any successor chapters would not have to worry about this?  Just trying to see what I can and can't get away with painting...  Anyways, my over all goal is to create a chapter that shares the Salamander background but has a bit of room to explore the model range, any thoughts?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ They were skipped in the Second Founding due to their very low numbers.  However that doesn't prohibit their geneseed being used in the 3rd or later foundings.  I'd eather use a unifying color, symbol or pattern to tie them back to the Salamanders.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ According to the Lexicanum, they are "possibly" the first founding for two Chapters.  I do not know where they get this.<br /> <br /> I say go ahead just make the spin off chapter tough/ mysterious.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> SUCCESSOR CHAPTERS ARE NOT THE SAME <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> CHAPTERS THAT USE THE GENESEED<br /> <br /> Successor chapters are ONLY those created in the second founding upon the break up of the legions. Nothing else.<br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> <br /> Now if you are talking about Chapters that use the Salamanders geneseed, there are a few, but not many. But by all means make a DiY chapter based off them <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> It's not like you are trying to make Female Space Marines...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 00:25:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Salamander Successor Chapters</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Point taken on the Successor Chapters.  Am I correct that the gene seed would not have the same effect on the skin and eyes as it does on the inhabitants of Nocturne?  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:53:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Jungle0731 wrote:</cite>Point taken on the Successor Chapters.  Am I correct that the gene seed would not have the same effect on the skin and eyes as it does on the inhabitants of Nocturne?  </div></blockquote>No, you are not. It is not the geneseed that causes the mutation, it is a combination of the geneseed and the environment of Nocturne. Of course, geneseed is regularly mucked about with during the inital harvesting progress when they create a new chapter, it could manifest itself in another way or not at all.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:13:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Geneseed Mutations are very odd.<br /> <br /> Like that of the Blood Angels. Pretty much all chapters that use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> Geneseed can fall to the Black Rage and Red Thirst, except for the Lamenters who do not suffer from the Black Rage at all.<br /> <br /> Some mutations come out of nowhere for unknown reasons. Examples are the Black Dragons and Flame Falcons.<br /> <br /> Geneseed mutations are crraaazzzyyyy......]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:44:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Dreadwinter wrote:</cite>Like that of the Blood Angels. Pretty much all chapters that use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> Geneseed can fall to the Black Rage and Red Thirst, except for the Lamenters who do not suffer from the Black Rage at all.</div></blockquote>On the flip side, they have terrible bad luck]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:17:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> <br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> <br /> nonsense.<br />  <br /> <u>There are no mentioned successors.</u><br /> <br /> <br /> The whole chart of successors is dated to M33, so after heresy and not claimed complete by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:42:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> <br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> <br /> nonsense.<br />  <br /> <u>There are no mentioned successors.</u><br /> <br /> <br /> The whole chart of successors is dated to M33, so after heresy and not claimed complete by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>it is also known that the salamanders had about 7 marines after the heresy. hardly enough to split into chapters]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:52:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> <br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> <br /> nonsense.<br />  <br /> <u>There are no mentioned successors.</u><br /> <br /> <br /> The whole chart of successors is dated to M33, so after heresy and not claimed complete by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>it is also known that the salamanders had about 7 marines after the heresy. hardly enough to split into chapters</div></blockquote><br /> Did say who exactly? Numbers without sources doesn't matter.  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Still vulcan agreed to split up into chapters....<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:56:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> <br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> <br /> nonsense.<br />  <br /> <u>There are no mentioned successors.</u><br /> <br /> <br /> The whole chart of successors is dated to M33, so after heresy and not claimed complete by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>it is also known that the salamanders had about 7 marines after the heresy. hardly enough to split into chapters</div></blockquote><br /> Did say who exactly? Numbers without sources doesn't matter.  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Still vulcan agreed to split up into chapters....<br /> </div></blockquote>No, he agreed to follow the codex astrates in some form. That doesn't mean he had enough numbers to make chapters]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:00:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>1hadhq wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Just to get off my chest my little pet peeve:<br /> <br /> <br /> There are no Successor Salamander Chapters. This is irrefutable.<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/c1f54002789bba812b7255ca0516c659.gif" border="0"> <br /> nonsense.<br />  <br /> <u>There are no mentioned successors.</u><br /> <br /> <br /> The whole chart of successors is dated to M33, so after heresy and not claimed complete by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>.<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>it is also known that the salamanders had about 7 marines after the heresy. hardly enough to split into chapters</div></blockquote><br /> Did say who exactly? Numbers without sources doesn't matter.  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Still vulcan agreed to split up into chapters....<br /> </div></blockquote>No, he agreed to follow the codex astartes in some form. That doesn't mean he had enough numbers to make chapters</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No interest providing where you took those "only 7 marines" from ?<br /> <br /> And doesn't mean he had'nt the numbers to do so either.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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