<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? ) SM is probably scouts. But im not too sure if its effective
to arm them this way:

Basically 5 squads of 5 , 4with missle launcher, 1 with heavy bolter.
the rest + Sergent are all CCW+ bolt pistol. Does this work? i mean usually hvy weapon + cc dont mix...
Or are these fine to sit on objectives?
And same 5 squads , is it worth boosting their numbers with sniper riffles? or should i not bother until they have bolter?

Are whirl winds worth taking?

Land speeder storm , the troop choice it self doesnt come with additional crew in the codex.
does that mean i can model it with just the 2 pilots?

Anyone home? =_=

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They are Stormtroopers with +1 S/T and -1 to BS.

Get Tacticals instead. Scouts are only good with snipers, and for killing high toughness enemies, you have much better options, like Captains with relic blades and Tacticals with multi-meltas.

Besides, scout models are fugly. They don't have necks and their heads are cubes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774551.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
Mean while Deepstrike your Tacticals in with Drop Pods to the Objectives and capture.

Its a theory I had, that I'm sure others have had before and I'm not to sure how well it works.

Oh then add other things you might want, like Dreads.

Or Infitrate scout to objectives to take them, then Drop pod Tacs in, move scouts out use teli homer to bring on the Termies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774564.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
Ok luna, ignore the Cheese....
Scouts when equiped right and used correctly can be a very useful tool in ones army list.

I dont have my SM codex handy atm so please bear with me Luna....

Scouts with Sniper Rifles = Win
Scouts with Heavy Weapons that Infil into cover = Win
Scouts With Teleport Homers = Win

You are correct in saying that Heavys and CC usually dont mix. Scouts are great for early game Obj sitters, but in most games they will not be able to hold it without support. Keep that in mind and plan ahead and you should be good.

Whirlwinds I find are great when mixed in with other Pie throwers. I found a good combo to be 2 whirlwinds and a Vindy. With everyone useing cover in 5th and being troop heavy, the whirlwinds able to ignore said cover can be huge in some games. The Vindy just smashes high T things or Deep strikers that get too close.

As for the Land Speeders, I dont know the answer to that one since I dont have my Codex at hand. I think yes, but am unsure atm.

Hope this helps.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774567.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774567.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
Luckily and unluckily i guess , they are the metal ones.

Which means they look better than the plastic ones , yet it means i cannot switch the weapons anymore. Only what i listed earlier.

How do i make it work? Take the heavy weapons away from them and give it to sniper scouts?

And wow i never realized they gave them BS 3]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774581.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774581.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
Use only the squads you think would come in handy.

Personally I don't think you can go wrong in having at least one squad of Sniper Scouts in an army fielding scouts you'll have range and a good chance to wound most things you can hit.

The Scout Heavy bolter uses the Hellfire round doesn't it? That would make it a blast weapon that wounds on a two so it should be pretty good, I've never taken one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774600.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? ) If you have scouts with sniper rifles already you can try this:
Scout squad X10
4 Sniper Rifles
1 ML or HB
4 CCW/BP
1 Sergeant

This is 1 troop that can split up using the combat squads rules and now you have a longer ranged shooting squad to sit on objectives and another advance force that can pressure the enemy.
Keep in mind that the model for the Land speeder storm is on its way and this would allow the advance portion of the squad to have a ride to outflank in, scout ahead in, or hold back and contest late game objectives in.
The Storm model should be fine without a squad modeled onto it, but you could do so if you like.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774828.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/774828.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? ) LOS, they're probably dead.

I tend not to use them at all in KP games. They're just a liability. If you're up against Nidzilla lists, a C'Tan, or wraithlords, take a squad with sniper rifles. Just remember, for each squad you take, that's one less tactical squad with much better anti-infantry firepower.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/775041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/775041.page GMT Re:Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
Shrike-Scouts 2000pts

HQ

Shrike 195

Elite

10x Assault Terminators

Troops

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

10x Scouts 170pts
Combat Blades
Combi-Melta
powerfist

Fast Attack

3x Scout Bikes 125pts
Powerfist
Astates Grenade Launcher

3x Scout Bikes 125pts
Powerfist
Astates Grenade Launcher

3x Scout Bikes 125pts
Powerfist
Astates Grenade Launcher

Total: 1990pts


Shrike gies your entire army fleet. He infiltrates with the terminators. The rest of your army infiltrates, then scout moves to within 12" of the enemy (6 " for the bikes).

Your first turn goes like this:
Move 6", Fleet d6" (bikes pound stuff with genades) , charge your army, kill eveything he has.

On turn 1 this has 5 rending attacks, 30 Thunderhammer attacks, 27 Powerfist attacks and 174 S4 sttacks.

If your opponent declines to deploy anything on the board you infiltrate along his board edge, stopping him from bringing anything in from reserve unless he has deep strikers, which he has to declare during his deployment, which will always be before you deploy. You have enough models to cover the back edge and both side edges if you spread all your models out as far as they can.

Tanks may be an issue. You have to hope the powerfists and combi-meltas get into the right places, but you deploy everything after your opponent so this shouldnt be a problem.

If you feel like it you can also outflank with your entire army, but this can leave you open to some bad luck if you dont get decent reserve rolls.

The best thing about this is that nobody will expect it. Who the hell plans to face an entire army of first turn charging scouts?
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LunaHound wrote:kk , first of all my favorite infantry in SM is probably scouts.

I like where this is going.

LunaHound wrote:But im not too sure if its effective
to arm them this way:

Basically 5 squads of 5 , 4with missle launcher, 1 with heavy bolter.
the rest + Sergent are all CCW+ bolt pistol. Does this work? i mean usually hvy weapon + cc dont mix...
Or are these fine to sit on objectives?
And same 5 squads , is it worth boosting their numbers with sniper riffles? or should i not bother until they have bolter?

Are whirl winds worth taking?

Land speeder storm , the troop choice it self doesnt come with additional crew in the codex.


Now I don't. I armed my scouts in a way that allows them to adapt to any situation. Sarge has bolt and ccw, three have bolt and ccw, and one has a bolter to act as long range firepower. I'm not too sure if this method is still valid , and if it's not, I'll just reconfigure them or something like that so that they can be.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/775865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/775865.page GMT Space Marine choices question : ( what to take? )
I usually take

2 Tacticals w/ 1 Drop Pod ; 1 w/ Rhino then a Scout squad w/ Telion and sniper rifles along with Missile Launcher.


It's great.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/776124.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244082/776124.page GMT