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				<description><![CDATA[ Not played in a "Ard Boyz" setting before but my local shop is running an event.<br /> I've tossed my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> list around with a couple of pals and thought I would throw it up<br /> here for a tear down.<br /> <br /> The idea is to do what <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> do best and out man and out gun who ever I come up<br /> against. I figure with 10 lascannons that should be enough anti-armor and with<br /> them split up into the squads that gives me 10 targets I can engage per shooting<br /> round.  My missiles go in the Heavy Weapon Squads to engage what the lascannons<br /> leave or use mass frag missiles for hords.  My Special weapon squads take on anyone<br /> who gets to close and my Strom Troopers deep strike for pesky hidden armor.<br /> <br /> My Bane Wolf/Devil Dog do what they do best and take one some<br /> troops while my Psyker Battle squad drops a decent S9 template on folks <br /> heads.<br /> <br /> My Leman Russ Punishers are mass anti-infantry.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s are pretty naked, I see no reason to dump to many points into them<br /> and I decided not to take Commissars because with 10 + squads if I do have<br /> one or two break I have more then enough to fill in until they rally, if at all.<br /> <br /> Reg <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Full Adv.<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br />  <br /> 1st Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 2nd Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 3rd Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 4th Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 5th Squad<br /> Lascannon<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br />  <br /> 1st Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 2nd Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 3rd Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 4th Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> 5th Squad<br /> Lascannon<br />  <br /> Heavy Weapons<br /> Missile<br />  <br /> Heavy Weapons<br /> Missile<br />  <br /> Heavy Weapons<br /> Missile<br />  <br /> Special Weapons<br /> X2 Plasma  <br /> Demo<br />  <br /> Special Weapons<br /> X2 Plasma<br /> Demo<br />  <br /> Special Weapons<br /> x2 Plasma<br /> Demo<br /> <br /> Hellhound Squad<br /> Devil Dog<br /> Devil Dog<br /> Bane Wolf<br /> <br /> Storm Troopers<br /> x2 Melta<br />  <br /> Storm Troopers<br /> x2 Melta<br />  <br /> Psyker <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span><br /> x10<br />  <br /> LRPBT <br /> LRPBT<br /> LRPBT<br /> <br /> Point Total <br /> 2493<br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 02:34:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BigJon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Now I admit that I don't play Horde armies, but to me this list just looks bad. One thing I notice is the Storm Troopers and they have to go, they are some of the worst units in the codex. As well I'm not sold on Special weapons teams, so I'd drop them and the useless troopers and grab some Melta Vets with Melta bombs and Det packs and toss them into Chims.<br /> <br /> I'd also drop the Devil dogs for Vendettas as you get more use from 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>'s than you do from a scattering melta blast.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:09:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Norade]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Actually if he wants a non mechanised army Storm troops are awsome.  They are pretty good.  They are sucicide units that deep stirke with the reroll.  Don't got past 5 of them though.  The army looks interesting man but if you get hit by something on the flank you might just get rolled.  I'm not gonna say this list is horrible because <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(793);'>IDK</span>.  But I see this as interesting alterantive to mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>ig</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:21:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ CajunMan550]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2500pt Ard Boy Semi-Foot Slogger IG list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Cons:<br /> <br /> Six tanks at 2500 points - you yourself are taking enough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> to pop all of them by the end of the second turn.<br /> <br /> No Special Weapons in the line squads.<br /> <br /> No AckAck for the AirCav fad (no real solution for that unless you want to invest in heavy stubbers and/or autocannons and/or Hydras.<br /> <br /> Your self-described primary defense against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> is a one-shot template weapon with a 12" effective range.<br /> <br /> -------<br /> Solutions:<br /> <br /> Drop the Special Weapons Squads, and distribute the plasmas among the line squads.<br /> <br /> Get another Company <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - lose the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(373);'>MOO</span> and the Astropath (unless you were going to outflank some stuff?) and get another Fleet Officer to really disrupt reserve rolls. Just paint a tank sprue officer blue or something appropriately fleet-ish.<br /> <br /> Tool the PLT <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> out for at least something - 4 flamers for a counter-attack that's guaranteed to do some damage on the cheap.<br /> <br /> You may have to drop a line squad w/ a Lascannon to find points for that stuff.<br /> <br /> If you min/max the Stormies, you probably can scrape enough points for a Chimera to put your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(449);'>PBS</span> in, and make it a bit less of a glass cannon.<br /> <br /> As for tanks, it'll be interesting to see whether or not three Punishers put out the dakka you need. Definitely post a battle report when you're done!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 08:33:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ slice of toast]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2500pt Ard Boy Semi-Foot Slogger IG list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, to show I listen I made a couple of changes, see if this is better.  I dropped one Bane Wolf,<br /> the Psyker Battle Squad and one squad from each platoon.  I also dropped the MOF, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(373);'>MOO</span> and bodyguard<br /> and added x2 plasma to the CCSHQ.  In my Platoon I went with special weapons for the first line since the second line<br /> will be behind them I did not give them any. I added two Vet squad and two Valk for some quick objective<br /> grabbing action.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Astropath<br /> x2 Plasma<br /> <br /> x5 Storm Troopers<br /> x2 Melta<br /> <br /> x5 Storm Troopers<br /> x2 Melta<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> x2 Flamers<br /> <br /> x2 Inf Squad<br /> w/Flamer, Lascannon<br /> <br /> x2 Inf Squad<br /> w/Plasma, Lascannon<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> x2 Flamers<br /> <br /> x4 Inf Squad<br /> Lascannons<br /> <br /> Vet Squad<br /> Demo<br /> x3 Melta<br /> <br /> Vet Squad<br /> Demo<br /> x3 Melta<br /> <br /> Valkyrie with Rocket Pods<br /> <br /> Valkyrie with Rocket Pods<br /> <br /> Bane Wolf<br /> <br /> Devil Dog<br /> <br /> x3 Leman Russ Punishers<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:24:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BigJon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think this second list is a ton more competetive. <br /> <br /> - Melta/Demo vets in Valks own Landraiders and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 13+<br /> <br /> - The Lascannons are solid long range AV11+ Anti armor<br /> <br /> - More flamers is good<br /> <br /> Things I think you should consider<br /> - Plasma is a no bueno on Guard in 5th Edition. With the weak armor save and poor <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>, you're just not going to get the return on your investment that you are looking for. I would either ditch it for more melta (close range support if enemy armor reaches your line), or autocannon+2 sniper rifles and cammo cloaks. If you are going to insist on taking plasma, take a medi-pack on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> so you at least get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> on the overheats.<br /> <br /> - All Ard Boyz armies usually need 2 things to truly be competitive. Deep strike protection and psychic protection. This is commonly accomplished by allying in inquisition goodies, but the Guard have a cheap option that can fulfill one of these roles. Leave the Officer of the Fleet in. Against all deepstriking armies you are going to want to be able to focus all of your striking power onto small borken up chuncks of you opponent's army. This is better achieved with a OoF to break up reserves rolls. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:23:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ revnow]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2500pt Ard Boy Semi-Foot Slogger IG list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, I see the reasion behind Meltas over Plasmas, not to crazy on the loss of range<br /> but how lone will they stay at range anyway.  I added a Master of the Fleet for the<br /> very reasion stated in this thread, delay the deep strikers.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span><br /> Astropath	<br /> MotFleet	<br /> x2 Melta<br /> <br /> x5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>		<br /> x2 Melta	<br /> <br /> x5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(171);'>ST</span>		<br /> x2 Melta	<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>		<br /> x2 Flamers	<br /> <br /> x2 Inf Squad<br /> w/Flamers, Lascanon	<br /> <br /> x2 Inf Squad<br /> w/Melta, Lascannon<br /> <br /> Plt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Lascannon	<br /> <br /> x4 Inf Squad<br /> w/Lascannon<br /> <br /> Hvy Weapon<br /> Missile<br /> <br /> Hvy Weapon	<br /> Missile<br /> <br /> Vet Squad<br /> Demo<br /> x3 Melta<br /> <br /> Vet Squad<br /> Demo<br /> x3 Melta<br /> <br /> Valkyrie<br /> Missile Pod	<br /> <br /> Valkyrie<br /> Missile Pod<br /> <br /> Devil Dog<br /> Bane Wolf<br /> <br /> LRPBT<br /> LRPBT<br /> LRPBT<br /> <br /> 2490]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ BigJon]]></author>
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