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I have 3 squads of 30 boyz stormboyz a nob squad and ghazkull thraka with a warphead...... in a battlewagon...... GReat list works everytime.... until i encounter leman russes and landraiders. I try power klawing but they drive 12" and use machine spirit to shoot. What to do.. great the computer cant do a question mark it can do a´ñ but not a question mark. Anyway y boyz got rokkit lauchers but my boyz seem horrible at shooting even for orks. Not only that the new guard codex is stomping me... period....... i need help and a new list. I really like the ghazkull thraka and warphead combo and i dont think im gona be switching that but everything else well seems to be losing its effectiveness...

Note i got a waaargh every turn in a seven roung game with my warphead ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777617.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777623.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777623.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777626.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777632.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777637.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
Or try some deffkoptas, their rokkits are twin linked, so that can help.
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I'd get a new place.

I'm not familiar with the SM Codex but 5 Land Raiders? How is that possible? A house rule that allows it?

Nob Bikers sounds like a start. And then Echo the Deff Dred, Killa Kan options.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777674.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777674.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777682.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777682.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider PK might help a lot though. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777684.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
scifi112233 wrote:its a blacktemplar thing.... troops can take land raiders.... they take take them as heavy support and through termies in the other 2 i hate it its horrible


Wow! Insane! That is tough for Orks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777693.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777693.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider SM codex.

1 Land Raider for a REGULAR terminator squad.

1 Land Raider for an ASSAULT terminator squad.

3 heavy support land raiders.

Easy as heck and it's in the rules that says 1 regular squad of termies and one assault termies squad can take a land raider transport per army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777694.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777694.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777697.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777697.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
Hey, a situation where Tank Bustas may actually be useful!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777698.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider bs 4



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i know im complaing but come on since when did land raiders start rolling of the factory in the hundreds]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777703.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777703.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777717.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777720.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777720.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
scifi112233 wrote:...they are a max of strenght six... i dont see that penatrating a land raider


But don't they have some 2d6 pen rule like 'melta'? or am I totally thinking of something else?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777772.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777774.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider Str 6 + 2d6 Armor Pen, which gives you a reasonable chance to get a couple penetrating hits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777783.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777783.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider KFF. Kff with dreads will even make a space marine player freak out, he wont like looking at that wall...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/777811.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
scifi112233 wrote:dude........... rear armor on land raider is 14.....plus with a 12 inch move..... 6´s and 6´s just to hit and glance... plus they get to shoot with a machine spirit that is... bs 4


Wrong.
The printout from Army Builder says: With a crew stunned result, the Power of the Machine Spirit allows the vehicle to move up to its maximum speed. Also, the Machine Spirit can operate one weapon per turn as long as the vehicle has not moved more than 6" even with a Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned result. This is in addition to any weaponry that can normally fire. The Machine Spirit has a BS of 2. See Wargear, pg 35. Also see CA pg 34 for additional details.


So a LR can only move 6" and still fire two main weapons, one being at BS2 with Power of the Machine Spirit.


But again, I still say your best bet may be Deff Dreads/Killa Kans, with a Deffkopta squad thrown in for good mix perhaps.
Because unless Orks have anything strength 8/9 with 2D6 pen outside of close combat, you're gonna have to just shield those naughts and get em into smashin range.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778064.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778064.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
ShadowRocket wrote:
scifi112233 wrote:dude........... rear armor on land raider is 14.....plus with a 12 inch move..... 6´s and 6´s just to hit and glance... plus they get to shoot with a machine spirit that is... bs 4


Wrong.
The printout from Army Builder says: With a crew stunned result, the Power of the Machine Spirit allows the vehicle to move up to its maximum speed. Also, the Machine Spirit can operate one weapon per turn as long as the vehicle has not moved more than 6" even with a Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned result. This is in addition to any weaponry that can normally fire. The Machine Spirit has a BS of 2. See Wargear, pg 35. Also see CA pg 34 for additional details.

I'm sorry, but you're out of date. The 5th ed space marine codex lets you shoot 1 additional weapon no matter how far you move at normal BS, and it can be at a different target as everything else. I don't have the 5th ed marine book in front of me so I don't know it it does anything else.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778101.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider bs 4 shot at cruising speed. The best option there is to get a ork list and spam deff kopta's have all of them with rokkits and a few buzz saws in there and you should be able to take a fair few of them out all you have to do is scout then turbo boost 24" first turn get a cover save then shoot and assault.

Have you tried using the other options in the list like the boarding plank so your guys dont have to disembark or even the grabba klaw to stop the tanks from moving and the wrecker ball which is a str 9 hit? either that or wagons with zzap guns although i think they are rather crappy now not sure how usefu; the boom guns on the wagon or looted wagons would be but there still possibilites. Im pretty sure the deffrolla can be used against vehicles.

I think a lot of lists except maybe a nid list with lots of MC's would be hard pressed to disrupt that tide of giant metal boxes.

Just my two cents worth]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778142.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
TalosNB wrote:

I think a lot of lists except maybe a nid list with lots of MC's would be hard pressed to disrupt that tide of giant metal boxes.

Just my two cents worth


Even a nid list with 8 MC (the max) has a hard time with a tank heavy list. It doesn't have to be a land raider spam. You have to get into cc which is hard when you have a ton of multi lasers or Twin Lascannons (10 in the land raider spam).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778214.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider Nob Bikers, lots of them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778225.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778225.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider

1. Deffkoptas are useless against Landraiders. Don't bother. Their buzzsaw is STR7 on the charge, can't even touch a landraider.

2. Powerklaws needing 6s to hit, 6s to penetrate (except for Ghazghkull) are also unimpressive.

3. No one has mentioned Grabbin' Klaws!!! This year, folks are using ridiculous amounts of vehicles. You can immobilize them by just snatching them, then the next turn you get to auto-hit what you grabbed. Instead of needing 6s to hit and 5s or 6s to penetrate, you just need to penetrate.

4. Boarding Planks: What's better than Ghazghkull charging a land raider? Ghazghkull staying on his transport and crossing a boarding plank to attack a land raider without disembarking.

5. Tank bustas: Two tank hammers attacking at STR10, combined with everyone else getting their tank bombs....if you can multi-assault, you can take down two land raiders in a turn. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778412.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778423.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider PC.

Then a squad of Nob Bikers.

then the rest of your points in Boys with trukks and PCs. I might also suggest a the formentioned Deffdread and kan army. I saw a guy use it fitting in 2 big mechs one with KFF another with Shokk Attack gun and 2 mobs of Lootas. Then a huge mob of reg boys a mob of shootas and bout 6 Kans and 2 Deffdreads. Was a mean mean list. IDK if thats the exsact way but I know that was all on the board and it is awsome.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778432.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778432.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider PC? What's a PC in relation to this? And while you can certainly create a list specifically to deal with a landraider list, I'd think it would be more effective to have a generalized list capable of dealing with land raiders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778453.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778453.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider Lol lot of interesting things come up when I scroll over PC. I ment Power Claw maybe its PK I play IG ok leave me alone!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778460.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider PK? (Powerklaw)

:EDIT: Slowpoke sloooooowwwwwww]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778462.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778462.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
Dashofpepper wrote:A lot of replies here, and a lot of...weird answers. Here's a few things:


1. Deffkoptas are useless against Landraiders. Don't bother. Their buzzsaw is STR7 on the charge, can't even touch a landraider.

2. Powerklaws needing 6s to hit, 6s to penetrate (except for Ghazghkull) are also unimpressive.

3. No one has mentioned Grabbin' Klaws!!! This year, folks are using ridiculous amounts of vehicles. You can immobilize them by just snatching them, then the next turn you get to auto-hit what you grabbed. Instead of needing 6s to hit and 5s or 6s to penetrate, you just need to penetrate.

4. Boarding Planks: What's better than Ghazghkull charging a land raider? Ghazghkull staying on his transport and crossing a boarding plank to attack a land raider without disembarking.

5. Tank bustas: Two tank hammers attacking at STR10, combined with everyone else getting their tank bombs....if you can multi-assault, you can take down two land raiders in a turn.


I'm not really familiar with the ork codex but would grabbin claws also work to immobalize and thus wreck skimmers? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778594.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778594.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
augustus5 wrote:
Dashofpepper wrote:A lot of replies here, and a lot of...weird answers. Here's a few things:


1. Deffkoptas are useless against Landraiders. Don't bother. Their buzzsaw is STR7 on the charge, can't even touch a landraider.

2. Powerklaws needing 6s to hit, 6s to penetrate (except for Ghazghkull) are also unimpressive.

3. No one has mentioned Grabbin' Klaws!!! This year, folks are using ridiculous amounts of vehicles. You can immobilize them by just snatching them, then the next turn you get to auto-hit what you grabbed. Instead of needing 6s to hit and 5s or 6s to penetrate, you just need to penetrate.

4. Boarding Planks: What's better than Ghazghkull charging a land raider? Ghazghkull staying on his transport and crossing a boarding plank to attack a land raider without disembarking.

5. Tank bustas: Two tank hammers attacking at STR10, combined with everyone else getting their tank bombs....if you can multi-assault, you can take down two land raiders in a turn.


I'm not really familiar with the ork codex but would grabbin claws also work to immobalize and thus wreck skimmers?


IIRC no, because it does not immobilize them like getting hit with a railgun immobilizes them, it just makes them stop moving.
Lemme check my codex.

Edit: Checked the codex, it just stops them from moving on a roll of 4+]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778614.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
The Revelator wrote:Why not just markerlight them and then hit them with railgu- HAHAHA OH WAIT YOU DONT HAVE ANY.


Yeah, totally dude. And like, remember that time Tau won an assault?

Neither do I.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778654.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
As for being able to destroy the land raiders, do Killa Kans have strength 10 Dreadnought CCW? They might be able to help a little though the land raiders will destroy them fairly easily :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/778688.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
Ghaz has been working. There are some tricks with him that allow him to crush a Land Raider and make your opponent think about wanting to assault him.

Killa Kanz are S10 and have worked ok.

The reality is the Land Raider will get far enough to be in good position to drop its payload. I've yet to figure out how to stop Land Raiders back in my opponent's deployment zone. You can rush Trukks up there to block it's path, but it can easily ram them out of the way. And if you move your trukks over 12", planks don't work.

I guess my best advise against a Land Raider with a unit (Terminators specifically) inside is to not use Nob Bikers against it. For the most part, the new Termies will stomp on Nob Bikers.

Tank Hammers seem doable, but canny opponents can completely avoid them.

(edited for incorrect ruling in 4th statement)

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Honestly, my tactics against a land raider list...

Deff Rollas where possible, Ghazghkull on the Waaaugh! against another land raider; with that 2+ invul save, I'm not worried about payload retaliation. Attacking a land raider with my tank bustas would feel like a waste if I were going to lose them in a retaliatory assault, but I would certainly spend my tank bustas to multi-assault two land raiders. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/779078.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/779078.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider TO advised Deff Rollas will not affect vehicles.

Ghaz is working for me. I can't really complain as I'm finding some tricks with him. I did use this tactic against another Ork player beating on a Battlewagon. In the following turn, he shot Ghaz and took 2 wounds and then assaulted, killing Ghaz despite the 2+ inv save. Losing 2 wounds to Ork shooting was a bit surprising (and in part to unlucky dice rolls on my part).

S8 Bomb Squigs aren't really anything I'm going to rely on against a Land Raider.

The bummer part is that as long as the Land Raider gets to the middle of the table, it's pretty much done its job. I've got nothing that can prevent this.

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Short of that, I make short work of anything. Ghazghkull on the Waaaugh! and on the charge can rip of pretty much anything.

Where land raiders become an issue is their ability to kill ork vehicles, get in the way, and take out an expensive model here and there. I'm calling ahead to the stores in my area to get a ruling on Deff Rollas, and if they aren't allowed in 'Ard Boyz, you can bet I'll be packing grabbin' klaws.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/780025.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/780025.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
starwoof wrote:
ShadowRocket wrote:
scifi112233 wrote:dude........... rear armor on land raider is 14.....plus with a 12 inch move..... 6´s and 6´s just to hit and glance... plus they get to shoot with a machine spirit that is... bs 4


Wrong.
The printout from Army Builder says: With a crew stunned result, the Power of the Machine Spirit allows the vehicle to move up to its maximum speed. Also, the Machine Spirit can operate one weapon per turn as long as the vehicle has not moved more than 6" even with a Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned result. This is in addition to any weaponry that can normally fire. The Machine Spirit has a BS of 2. See Wargear, pg 35. Also see CA pg 34 for additional details.

I'm sorry, but you're out of date. The 5th ed space marine codex lets you shoot 1 additional weapon no matter how far you move at normal BS, and it can be at a different target as everything else. I don't have the 5th ed marine book in front of me so I don't know it it does anything else.


Thanks for the correction. Army Builder is saying its up to date with their recent 5th ed. patch, but of course its wrong. Seems they dont know Tau very well either since it came up with an illegal list earlier. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/780954.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/780954.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
ShadowRocket wrote:
starwoof wrote:
ShadowRocket wrote:
scifi112233 wrote:dude........... rear armor on land raider is 14.....plus with a 12 inch move..... 6´s and 6´s just to hit and glance... plus they get to shoot with a machine spirit that is... bs 4


Wrong.
The printout from Army Builder says: With a crew stunned result, the Power of the Machine Spirit allows the vehicle to move up to its maximum speed. Also, the Machine Spirit can operate one weapon per turn as long as the vehicle has not moved more than 6" even with a Crew Shaken or Crew Stunned result. This is in addition to any weaponry that can normally fire. The Machine Spirit has a BS of 2. See Wargear, pg 35. Also see CA pg 34 for additional details.

I'm sorry, but you're out of date. The 5th ed space marine codex lets you shoot 1 additional weapon no matter how far you move at normal BS, and it can be at a different target as everything else. I don't have the 5th ed marine book in front of me so I don't know it it does anything else.


Thanks for the correction. Army Builder is saying its up to date with their recent 5th ed. patch, but of course its wrong. Seems they dont know Tau very well either since it came up with an illegal list earlier.


army builder still should be checked by hand to be sure. We had a guy in our club who thought land speeder typhoons were 70 points cause his army builder was spitting them out at that cost.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/781131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/781131.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/782240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/782240.page GMT My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider HQ slot. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783566.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783566.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783752.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider LR's XD.

TBH yesterday I got my LR blown up by a meltabomb toting veteran squad. 1 hit and it annihilated it. Then that same squad had a demo charge and blew up 4 terminators. I didn't like that squad. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783778.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/783778.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
EzeKK wrote:Hate to add but Daemon Hunters could take 7 LR's XD.

I faced exactly that last month. Local 'Ard Boyz style tournament. Scenario was Dawn of War, 3 objectives at midfield, if the attacker (My Speed Freak Orks) could hold all 3 points uncontested until the end of any enemy turn I scored a massacre, if the defender held more points than I did at the end of the game they scored a massacre, major/minor/draw was determined by kill points if neither side scored a massacre. With 13 power klaws in the list, I think I opened all of 3/7 Raiders. That being said, I scored a draw (being down by 2 kill points thanks to easily killed Trukks), with 3 separate rolls that would have won me the game had the die turned a different way. It's cheesy, it's beardy, it's whatever you want to call that kind of thing. But... it's legal. I can say from the experience that while it's frustrating to go up against such a list, a more balanced opponent with perhaps "only" four Land Raiders and a lot more firepower would have hurt much more.

As for how to break the wall... my only answer is to throw powerklaws at it and pray. That, and take a sharpie to my own marine codex and say "nu-uhh!! Land Raiders were nerfed in the second printing of the codex. They're now AV4 on rear armor!" More realistically, Tank hammers and Deff Rollas (where permitted) are probably the way to do it. As to preventing the delivery of contents to midfield, we just have to accept as Orks that we can't be allowed to do EVERYTHING.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786155.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786155.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider
Malecus wrote:
EzeKK wrote:Hate to add but Daemon Hunters could take 7 LR's XD.

I faced exactly that last month. Local 'Ard Boyz style tournament. Scenario was Dawn of War, 3 objectives at midfield, if the attacker (My Speed Freak Orks) could hold all 3 points uncontested until the end of any enemy turn I scored a massacre, if the defender held more points than I did at the end of the game they scored a massacre, major/minor/draw was determined by kill points if neither side scored a massacre. With 13 power klaws in the list, I think I opened all of 3/7 Raiders. That being said, I scored a draw (being down by 2 kill points thanks to easily killed Trukks), with 3 separate rolls that would have won me the game had the die turned a different way. It's cheesy, it's beardy, it's whatever you want to call that kind of thing. But... it's legal. I can say from the experience that while it's frustrating to go up against such a list, a more balanced opponent with perhaps "only" four Land Raiders and a lot more firepower would have hurt much more.

As for how to break the wall... my only answer is to throw powerklaws at it and pray. That, and take a sharpie to my own marine codex and say "nu-uhh!! Land Raiders were nerfed in the second printing of the codex. They're now AV4 on rear armor!" More realistically, Tank hammers and Deff Rollas (where permitted) are probably the way to do it. As to preventing the delivery of contents to midfield, we just have to accept as Orks that we can't be allowed to do EVERYTHING.


No doubt that list is pure . Yeah, tankbustas with their hammers might actually do something for yah. Otherwise maybe boarding planks and deffrollas. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786166.page GMT Re:My ork list hits a wall.... well an armor 14 landraider GW seems to be leaning that way.

With that said this year IS GOING TO BE MECHANIZED. I'm bringing tank bustas, rokkits, freakin' powerklaws, boarding planks, grabbin' klaws, more powerklaws, crab klaws, some rat klaws, and even the mutated and shriveled klaw of a crippled guy that tried giving me the finger this one time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786514.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/244296/786514.page GMT