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				<title>[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Daemon Prince<br /> w/ Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Warptime<br /> [175]<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> (5) Chosen<br /> w/ 4x Flamers<br /> Rhino<br /> [145]<br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> (10) Chaos Space Marines<br /> 2x Meltaguns<br /> Champion w/ Power Fist<br /> Rhino<br /> [245]<br /> <br /> (10) Chaos Space Marines<br /> 2x Meltaguns<br /> Champion w/ Power Fist<br /> Rhino<br /> [245]<br /> <br /> (10) Chaos Space Marines<br /> 2x Meltaguns<br /> Champion w/ Power Fist<br /> Rhino<br /> [245]<br /> <br /> Heavy:<br /> Vindicator<br /> w/ Daemonic Possession<br /> [145]<br /> <br /> (2) Obliterators<br /> [150]<br /> <br /> (2) Obliterators<br /> [150]<br /> <br /> So, if I get frisky and decide to splurge on the Iron Warrior upgrades, does this seem like a suitable list? Yes, I know the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> isn't too proper, but its a solid <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choice. In more friendly games, I might run a Warsmith (Chaos Lord/Sorcerer), but otherwise, I want it to be suitable for competative type games. I do hate to think how much this would cost me in shoulder pads and helmet upgrades. Either I do that, or I sculpt them all into Death Shadows...or paint them as The Reborn. All possible, but I love the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(76);'>IW</span> fluff.<br /> <br /> Look good? bad? ugly?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:39:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ em_en_oh_pee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ this list looks good and it is fluffy one thing you may want to consider is how long a single vindi can last on its own without some kind of support unless you want to put the oblits flanking the tank and this will be quite tricky to to kill and will draw fire from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> or vise versa]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:33:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ warsmith pyrus]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Run double vindicator or nothing. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>. Or a defiler / vindi. <br /> <br /> Great on the lord, fluff with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> being bionics. <br /> <br /> chosen are OK. <br /> <br /> Troops, I don't like the champions with Powerfists. They don't do THAT much. With 2x Meltaguns and your troops staying together for the most part thats 6x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MG</span>'s. Walkers shouldn't touch you! <br /> <br /> With the extra points from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>'s and the 5 points from the Oblit --&gt; vindi swap thats 80 points to play with. I wanted to see a Greater Daemon in this list to add to the assault power. Oh damn I just realized you need <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span> on all those marine squads. So 50 points to play with. I really think that adding a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span> would be helpful just because then you have another buffer with your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> against units like Termies or Vets or armor ignoring squads from reaching your troops. <br /> <br /> Maybe dropping your chosen for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and then adding a Lesser Daemon squad or two to add to your assault power. Then you could keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>'s on 2x squads. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:39:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Lots of options, but I want to stay a bit fluffy, so I don't really want to add in any more Daemons. Hmm, tough call on the Vindi. I can toss out a Flamer off the Chosen, chuck the Vidi and put in another pair of Oblits. Or, I can toss all the Oblits for a pair of Vindis, giving me three total. Lots of fun options. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:05:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ em_en_oh_pee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think keeping 2 Oblits is good for them to stay back and snipe or melta-death something. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(75);'>IoCG</span> really need to be there just so you don't run away! Otherwise yes it is quite fluffy and nice. The only problem is no terminators, termies are very <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(76);'>IW</span>. So are <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 21 Jun 2009 00:13:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hard to fit everything at 1500, sadly. I will work on another list, though, just for kicks.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 21 Jun 2009 03:58:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ em_en_oh_pee]]></author>
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				<title>[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You could replace all those marine squads with 7 man plague marine squads with similar equipment loadouts and have a much stronger list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:08:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ hancock.tom]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yea, but that defeats the purpose, really. Not that it matters much, since it is all "counts-as", but I wanted to do as little Cultist stuff as possible (if any).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:30:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ em_en_oh_pee]]></author>
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				<title>Re:[1500] Kinda Iron Warriors CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like it, it looks good. It fits your theme but is still effective.<br /> <br /> If you can find the points you may want to give those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads IoGCs so that they dont run away so easily.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:26:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Regwon]]></author>
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