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				<description><![CDATA[ There's a guy over in painting and modelling postulating about having Karl Franz on foot in a regiment of Greatswords (clearly been reading the fluff).<br /> <br /> I suggested this wouldn't work tactically as enemy elite regiments would just avoid his unit like Nurgle's Rot. Am I wrong? Which of the five options for Karl Franz is the most effective?<br /> <br /> On Foot<br /> Pros - Cheap way to field Empire's best character, Can hide within an large infantry regiment<br /> Cons - Will be avoided, no nasty beasty to claw things apart <br /> <br /> On Barded Warhorse<br /> Pros - Still fairly cheap (on an additional 21 points), Can hide within a cavalry regiment (most likely Inner Circle Knights), Can be accompanied by Ludwig Schwarzhelm for further protection, Quite mobile<br /> Cons - Will only be able to cover so much of the battlefield<br /> <br /> On Pegasus<br /> Pros - Relatively cheap way to get him airborne<br /> Cons - Pegasus not a tough target to pick off i.e. he will probably be needing a parachute by Turn 2.<br /> <br /> On Deathclaw<br /> Pros - Airborne, Deathclaw is a big nasty beasty adding some weight in close combat, If Emperor dies, Deathclaw will hang around to do more damage<br /> Cons - Expensive, screams "shoot at me with everything you've got" (how's that parachute coming along?)<br /> <br /> On Imperial Dragon<br /> Pros - Even bigger flying nasty beasty... that breathes fire (need I go on?)<br /> Cons - Very expensive, also exhibits great desire to be shot at although with a lot more enthusiasm<br /> <br /> To me, Barded Warhorse seems the best option. What are your thoughts?]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Karl Franz on foot... really?!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Dragon all the way, it may be expensive but lets face it he will win you games, especially if hes running around toting Ghal Miraz.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:45:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Even if he was on foot, Ludwig could join him in a unit.<br /> <br /> If he was on a barded warhorse, he could hide in a big infantry squad.<br /> <br /> I would perfer the barded warhorse personally.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2009 02:02:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ skyth got the right of it, characters on horseback can join infantry units and not be targeted seperately by regular shooting (sniping HLRs and certain spells are still possible).<br /> <br /> I like the option of KF on a Warhorse. Gives him some nice mobility and a better armour save and leaves points for more troops. Also, when he's smack in the middle of the combat line he can actually use that nice enhanced <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> radius of his. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:28:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also:<br /> Dragon PRO: The ONLY character on dragon not to take up an extra hero slot, This is the only way I have seen him run in games 2500 and above.<br /> <br /> Warhorse PRO: Barded so +2 to armour save, also look out sir still works, this is the only way I have seen him run in games under 2500 pts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:01:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Waaagh_Gonads]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'd use a dragon, only because it gives me an excuse to buy and paint one of those fine things.<br /> <br /> You can also field Malekith on foot. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:52:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dragon. I used one at ard boys with ghal maraz. Even if the opponent fires everything at hhim it is still hard to kill either. Karl with his ward save  and dragon with its 6? wounds.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:23:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ where can you get dragon for Karl Franz? i mean which box you have to buy?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:52:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ High elves have the best looking one.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:41:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bat Manuel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>bendercz wrote:</cite>where can you get dragon for Karl Franz? i mean which box you have to buy?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> They don't make one.  You could use the body from the Old KF and Grimclaw box, or just come up with your own upper body.  High Elf dragon is the prettiest, but it may look a little too fancy for an Empire army.  I would say an older <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> or HE dragon.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:16:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ barlio]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the High Elf dragon is fine if you can ditch the High Elf finery. Reins and chair can go easily, but the arm and leg guards would be harder to resolve. Front legs could be replaced I guess, but you need the back ones for their hold on the rock.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:04:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Flashman]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Karl Franz on foot... really?!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey hey, i think i'm <b>'that guy'</b>! <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span> i have just started fantasy and thought after a 2000pts game against dark elves with a unit exactly like this and smashed through most of his units!!!<br /> <br /> It may not be the best of tactics but i thought i worked, the unit also had a battle standard in so the unit would be a command base giving all units within 18" a leadership of 10 that is rerollable!!! To me that sounds rather good <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Also i have now decided to use a tooled up empire general instead in my 2000pts because i can fit in another cannon and commands for other units!<br /> <br /> Thanks! <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:21:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SamG123]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>SamG123 wrote:</cite>Hey hey, i think i'm <b>'that guy'</b>! <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> Yes, I believe you were. Hope your Empire tactics are working out ok <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:33:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Flashman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well i only have 500pts right now.<br /> <br /> but i hope they will work! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:12:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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