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I am Bloodcrusher guy, but my friend as been raving about Fiends as evident with his blog post.

http://bloodofkittens.com/?p=813

I think he makes some good points. I just know my Bloodcrushers absorb so much fire and even if they do not get in combat they allow my other units to do there jobs.

So what do you guys think?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800425.page GMT
They also require that tarpitting unit to help them bounce around but this can be done by the troop types - less essential though.

A full 180pt 6 model squad will drop 8 marines on a charge & can do it from 19-24"; So judge to drop them 14-18" away, with some cheaper infantry (or perhaps even a scary demon prince - somthing tough) dropped inbetween & they should do alrite.

Otherwise 12 wounds @ T4 on a 5++ will evaporate relatively quickly.. buut being able to deep-strike outside of double-tap range & still be able to charge is a very good thing.

They also work well against a mirror match, equal pointage of four bloodcrushers - dealing 5 wounds & recieving about 1.3, assuming they get the charge - but thats the point, bloodcrushers generally work alot better with support, they have that potential.

Fiends can work alot better solo, an addable capable highly mobile assault unit. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800440.page GMT
I was thinking Fiends would a be a good way to limit a bad scatter and still be able to get into assault.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800463.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800489.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800489.page GMT my crushers eat fiends raw. Not a rule reference as yet.


G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800556.page GMT ofc assuming the fiends get the charge;

The crushers loose 6.7 wounds (3 models)

The fiends loose 4.4 wounds (2 models).

It looked alot rosier but I was using a fiend WS of 5 & forgot to apply the 5+ invunerable to the fiends sucessful rending attacks - still, fiends come out on top.

But the crushers will work alot better as a core element of an army, becoming much more of a force with support. The fiends are stand-alone, as I see it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800585.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/245821/800585.page GMT