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				<description><![CDATA[ So.. Does anyone know whether, in the new codex, an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> basilisk can fire directly?  <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> I mean if it cant then it sucks a load and theres no point taking one...<br /> <br /> By the way i already posted this but in a different place and during my work hours so it wasnt too great, thats why i poted it again... thought more people would find it here and make it clearer.<br /> <br /> If it <b>cant</b> fire directly then theres not much point taking the basilisk in any other game than a spearhead set-up. Any Other set-up and its going to get one shot off. and it'd be pointless in plannetstrike.<br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/7466fb56651cad8d97db5a0ed3311ea6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:15:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ valkyre ace]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ALL Ordinance Barrage weapons may fire directly (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 58, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(115);'>rt</span> column, 1st para), unless it's specifically stated they may not (colossus?).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:19:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Nurgleboy77 wrote:</cite>ALL Ordinance Barrage weapons may fire directly (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 58, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(115);'>rt</span> column, 1st para), unless it's specifically stated they may not (colossus?).</div></blockquote>The Griffon and the Deathstrike too.<br /> <br /> But yeah, unless otherwise specified, all Ordnance barrage may Fire Directly. Just remember you lose the barrage Rules and the Minimum Range.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:04:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<title>Re:New IG rules- Basilisks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It can fire directly, like most barrage weapons, but it will still have a minimum range, because that is covered in the weapon statline rather than in the rules for barrage weapons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:23:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New IG rules- Basilisks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Regwon wrote:</cite>It can fire directly,</div></blockquote>Correct<blockquote><div><cite>Regwon wrote:</cite> like most barrage weapons, </div></blockquote>Wrong, only Ordnance Barrage may Fire Directly, Normal Barrage (such as Mortars) may not.<blockquote><div><cite>Regwon wrote:</cite>but it will still have a minimum range, because that is covered in the weapon statline rather than in the rules for barrage weapons.</div></blockquote>Wrong. Page 58, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span>:<br /> If fired directly at the target, they are treated exactly like normal ordnance weapons (ignoring the minimum range in the weapon's profile).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:32:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes it can but it loses the barrage rule.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:36:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:New IG rules- Basilisks</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So... let me get this straight...<br /> <br /> 1) A basilisk <u><i><b>CAN</b></i></u> fire directly<br /> 2) It <u><i><b>CAN</b></i></u> fire within 36" but loses the barrage rule<br /> <br /> It says this on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>Pg</span> 58 in the rule book<br /> <br /> Have i got this right then? Or will there be more debating?<br /> <br />  <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0">Oh and Thanks A Lot for helpin me out on this <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"><br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:34:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ valkyre ace]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite>1) A basilisk <u><i><b>CAN</b></i></u> fire directly</div></blockquote>Yes, but it does not <i>have</i> to.<blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite>2) It <u><i><b>CAN</b></i></u> fire within 36" but loses the barrage rule</div></blockquote>Yes, only if you have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> though.<blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite>It says this on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>Pg</span> 58 in the rule book</div></blockquote>Yes.<blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite>Have i got this right then? </div></blockquote>Yes<blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite>Or will there be more debating?</div></blockquote>No.<blockquote><div><cite>valkyre ace wrote:</cite><img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0">Oh and Thanks A Lot for helpin me out on this <img src="/s/i/a/4eef2cc3548cc9844a491b22ad384546.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote>You are most welcome.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:37:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm gonna debate it just so that one of Gwar's answer is wrong.....................<br /> Hehehehehehehehehehehehe<br /> <br /> j/k]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:49:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ don_mondo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Omg j00 iz a trollz <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:56:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Curiously Codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> was not the first to be affected by the 5th ed rules for ordnance barrage weapons. That honor goes to the Space Marines, who can now move and fire their whirlwinds and ignore their 12" minimum range by firing them directly. Nobody seemed to notice until <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> came out and then we got people asking this exact same question several times a week for about two months now. People actually started screaming about how the Basilisk got nerfed before the codex was even released. And then there are also people who like talking about how much better the new mortar is than the old mortar with exactly the same profile. It just goes to show that a lot of people don't know the rules as well as they think they do. I expect we'll still have newbies confidently telling other newbies that the Basilisk can't shoot inside 36" a year from now. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:05:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, just don't forget while you can now move and fire Ordnance Barrage Directly, you <b>cannot</b> move and fire Ordnance Barrage <i>as </i>Barrage unless you are Fast or have a Special Rule saying otherwise.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:11:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gwar! wrote:</cite>Yeah, just don't forget while you can now move and fire Ordnance Barrage Directly, you <b>cannot</b> move and fire Ordnance Barrage <i>as </i>Barrage unless you are Fast or have a Special Rule saying otherwise.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I noticed the Whirlwind thing back about a year ago, when the rules came out. Pointed it out to our local Marine players as a bennie. <br /> Gwar, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> 58 says vehicles that remained stationary can fire Ord Barrage, not seeing anything in Fast to change this. Am I missing something (or did I catch you drinking again?)<br /> <br /> Edit: Never mind, found it, page 70. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:17:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am drinking, but I am Right <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> Naughty Don_Mondo for Doubting me <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'z a naughty trollz, I am.]]></description>
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