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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(555);'>El</span> Cheapo Captain - 100pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 3x10 Space Marines - (Not sure which weapon load out I should choose??  Flamer/Multi-melta??) - 510pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> 1xLandspeeder <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> - 60pts<br /> 1xLandspeeder <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> - 60pts<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> 3xLand Raiders - 750<br /> <br /> total so far: 1480 <br /> <br /> What to spend on the last 20pts?  Should I give some bling to the Captain?  Such as Powersword/Melta Bombs?<br /> <br /> Should I give Melta guns to the Marines? So they would have Melta's/Multi-meltas?<br /> <br /> I envision the raiders sitting back, using there LasCannons to pop targets at range.  The Land Speeders give me some more mobility and tank popping power as well as some anti-horde ability with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> (or should the speeder keep the Hvy Bolter?)<br /> <br /> So what are your thoughts??<br /> <br /> I would love to keep the three Land raiders, as I envision them being the focal point of the army and want to really go nuts on them paint wise with gothic murals  on the sides and tops.<br /> <br /> Comments, critiques and the like are greatly appreciated.<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Chappy P!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well this is something alright.  If the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> are sitting back, what are the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span>. Squads doing?  They are going to be made cannon fodder while trying to run up the feild.  I would suggest dropping the speeders for Drop pods and kitting the Tacs out with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and Melta guns.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Space wolves would do this better. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> too kinda.<br /> <br /> For vanilla, run 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads with flamer <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> sarg and run 3x godhammers or 2x godhams 1x crusader or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>.<br /> <br /> Drop one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad for an inducted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> squad w/incin and a psychic hood and make your leader a chappy or libby with Nullzone and Smite or something and stick with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(307);'>PAGK</span>.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> don't sit back period. Use them for mobile scoring units and move 6" at least and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(470);'>POTMS</span> the other las.<br /> <br /> Assault and disembark if you have to.<br /> <br /> Your speeders are good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:18:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your last 20 points will go in to correcting your landspeeder cost to 70pts each.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ my vote would be to put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads in the land raiders<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> My vote would be to put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads in the land raiders]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Haha i'm running damn near the same list only with Chaos.  <br /> <br /> -3 Land Raiders<br /> -30x Khorn Zerkers<br /> -Random Cheap <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:43:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @SDF Boy:<br /> <br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads would ride in the Land Raiders.  There for they would become mobile bunkers and scoring units.  Take a look at Deadshane's Land Raider tactica in the tactics section.  That tactica was the main reason I decided to put together said list.<br /> <br /> @Ezekk:<br /> <br /> Again I am thinking about deadshane's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> tactica and how he uses <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s.  I would do space wolves, but the rumors abound that there codex might appear later this year, so I want to hold off untill it is released.  I might hold off on said list because I am debating on weather or not to go true scale with it.<br /> <br /> @Shurk3n: <br /> <br /> I'll have to check my codex again for points.  I'll make sure the list is legal, I sort of threw it together at the office today going from memory.  The main point of the Landspeeders is to engage threats to the land raiders and contest objectives late in the game, if they survive that long.  <br /> <br /> @Bozeman Tyranid: <br /> <br /> Sorry I should have stated in my first post that the tactical squads would indeed ride in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s.<br /> <br /> @Bad_Sheep37:<br /> <br /> How is that list working for you?  I was thinking about doing the exact same list, but it seemed to get shot down by the various naysayers on the interwebz.  Although I wanted to do it true scale, or Art scale whichever term you prefer.  <br /> <br /> Any other thoughts?  Comments, Advice whatever may contribute to the refinement of said list?<br /> <br /> Thanks Again,<br /> Chappy P!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:15:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @ Chaplain:<br /> <br /> Its not doing to bad.  I Keep my Zerkers in the Land Raiders until their close enough to hop out of the Raider and Assault.  I keep my raiders close to the Zerkers so after assault, they can jump right back in.  It keeps the Zerkers alive since its hard as hell to hit armor of 14.  People tend to shoot a lot of ideas down because many people in these forums are competitive players.  Yes i like being competitive and having power lists but some builds are just fun to play.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:04:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1500pt Land Raider Spam space marine list, is it any good??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The problem when comparing Deadshanes tactica to your list is that he mentioned that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are the quarterback and the rest of your army becomes linebacker. You only have quarterbacks <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span>. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> Armies focus on using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s as taxis for the units inside. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span> your army doesn't really work. You have your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s and you will be almost forced to disembark to start hurting the other guy. 6 lascannon will hurt, but what if you vs. orks and nids? 15 shots from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> is good but it's not that much. Your disembarked units are shooting also and it's nicer to assault out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s in my experience. <br /> <br /> Taking 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s in my deathwing works. Why? Because the troops inside rush out and smash the living *$&% out of people. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s aren't forced to carry the whole world on their shoulders. <br /> <br /> In your army, you severely rely on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s crippling your opponent to the point that he can't touch the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines inside and their bolters can finish them off. Black templars would run this army better. Grey Knights &lt;---. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span> I would probably run two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LRs</span> and have some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> squads in rhinos that will help with damage. My deathwing kinda looks like that with 2 crusaders and 3 rhinos with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(307);'>PAGK</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(465);'>IST</span>'s. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>ATM</span> if you want to hang back and shoot the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s then you could be denied <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> pretty easily and tie or lose very easily. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:12:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @Bad Sheep: <br /> <br /> Those were my thoughts about said list.  I may have to revisit the idea after all, the thought of doing a Khorne loving, NON-World Eater army sounds very exciting to me!!<br /> <br /> I like Khonre of all the Chaos Lords, but I just don't like World Eaters.  The whole bunny ear thing just turns me off.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:13:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chaplain Pallantide]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Chaplain Pallantide wrote:</cite>@Bad Sheep: <br /> <br /> Those were my thoughts about said list.  I may have to revisit the idea after all, the thought of doing a Khorne loving, NON-World Eater army sounds very exciting to me!!<br /> <br /> I like Khonre of all the Chaos Lords, but I just don't like World Eaters.  The whole bunny ear thing just turns me off.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Khorne spear and just Berzerker rush is VERY effective. (assault units assaulting out of the transport that is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> XD)<br /> <br /> One problem with Chaos <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> is that it doesn't have POTSM. It can have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> though. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:14:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ EzeKK]]></author>
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				<title>1500pt Land Raider Spam space marine list, is it any good??</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ @Ezekk: <br /> <br /> I have thought about doing Black Templar's as I have a crap ton of them waiting to be worked upon...??  Hmmmm...Crap I left my book at home.  Maybe it'll be back to the drawing board and I'll have to check out Black Templar's.<br /> <br /> The main issue with them is the fact that their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are more expensive than the Vanilla flavor space marine ones.<br /> <br /> Thoughts??  Discuss.<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Chappy P!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:18:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chaplain Pallantide]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Chaplain Pallantide wrote:</cite>@Ezekk: <br /> <br /> I have thought about doing Black Templar's as I have a crap ton of them waiting to be worked upon...??  Hmmmm...Crap I left my book at home.  Maybe it'll be back to the drawing board and I'll have to check out Black Templar's.<br /> <br /> The main issue with them is the fact that their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are more expensive than the Vanilla flavor space marine ones.<br /> <br /> Thoughts??  Discuss.<br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> Chappy P!<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> True their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s are more expensive but their troops would be better for assault. <br /> <br /> Oh and I have to mention, in a 1500 inquis army you could fit 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>'s. <br /> <br /> Inquisitor = 270<br /> landraider<br /> <br /> Inquisitor = 270<br /> landraider<br /> <br /> Brother Captain = 61<br /> <br /> 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> = 750<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(465);'>IST</span> x5 + 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MG</span> (x2) = 140<br /> <br /> 1250 + 101 + 100 = 1491 <br /> <br /> THAT is landraider spam. You will also get a very dirty look from your opponent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> 3x Godhammer if you want. God that is nasty. ]]></description>
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