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				<title>Nids and vehichles...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok NEWB here...and trying to figure out the minor details of the game. I have a Tyranid Army that is a mix of figs. Basically the ideal is to throw my 3 Gaunt group in with devourer (Full scale gaunt blast with Devourers are expensive but 64 attacks that reroll damage is just too nice). I play mainly with family and the question I have is with Rending Claws...<br /> <br /> What is the big deal?<br /> <br /> I mean the Roll of 6 deals auto damage is sweet...but ever other forum I read about how people send out their Genestealers out to destroy tanks and such...am i missing something? I mean they onl get armor penetration of 1d6+5S (Thats with the +1 Strength) and most of the vehichles I come across have a rear Armor value of 14. Even with the extra D3 to peirce it...it doesn't seem all that great to me. <br /> <br /> Can someone explain how I am interpetting this rule wrong or at least give an example how this would work out. From what I can understand you would need to roll a 6 so you get the 1d3 roll and then you would have to roll a 3 (5 or 6) to penetrate. Those odds don't work out in the Nids favor. <br /> <br /> Its also a possability that there are vehichles that have a back armor rating of 10 or less that I have not encountered...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:04:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only vehicles you encounter are Land Raiders and Monoliths?<br /> <br /> The majority of vehicles in the game have a rear armor of 10.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:07:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah, hardly any tanks have a armour rating of 14 in the back, and most 90% don't even have a front armour value of 14.<br /> And once you consider how many dice you roll, you have a good chance of really messing up, or destroying most tanks]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:40:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ashaman]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nids and vehichles...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ When you assault a vehicle you always count as striking against its rear armor value - page 63.  So when a genestealer assaults and rolls a 6 to penetrate, it will always result in a penetrating hit against AV10.  As you seem to know, genestealers against AV14 doesn't work well.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:42:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Altimera]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There isn't really much at all that is <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 14. Land Raiders, Leman Russes, Monoliths... I think that's it, at a glance.<br /> <br /> Oh, and the new Space Wolf codex will have an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 14 Dreadnought as a character.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:46:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cheese Elemental]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No, leman russ has <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 13 I think.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:53:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ deadratman]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nids and vehichles...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 14-13-10 Stock, or 14-13-11 for heavier variants.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:16:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Commissar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ???<br /> <br /> Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...<br /> <br /> Thanks for the info.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:19:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gamingnutrpg]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Nids and vehichles...</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gamingnutrpg wrote:</cite>???<br /> <br /> Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...<br /> <br /> Thanks for the info.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> sounds like you are about to have some fun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:21:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Demogerg]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Gamingnutrpg wrote:</cite>???<br /> <br /> Ok then...Exscuse me while I commit some serious muder death kill. Either they dont know how to read their manuals or they be cheatin...<br /> <br /> Thanks for the info.  </div></blockquote><br /> In 4th edition, the rule was that assaults hit whatever armor they were facing, instead of using the rear armor value, so it's _possible_ that someone just didn't pay attention when reading the 5th ed rules.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:49:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bookwrack]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tyranids have problems against AV14 units, period.  However, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(47);'>GSs</span> completely own everything else.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:50:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Night Lords]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah alot of the people who started in 3rd edition and 4th edition arent happy 'bout 5th edition. Could be them just hanging on to the past.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:52:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ deadratman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That is true we were running on 4th for the first few month before the upgrade....I'll give them the benefit of the doubt....this time.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:55:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gamingnutrpg]]></author>
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