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Berzerkers are made for one thing and that is getting stuck in. The land raider is the best and only true delivery service at their disposal.

If you are thinking of going a different direction with your army I'd consider maybe two vindicators and a predator set up for anti-infantry. But really the cream of the chaos crop in the heavy section is the Obliterator. Three squads of 2 or 3 oblits can handle anything. They give you a lot of flexability. They can sit in the backfield and blast away or they can deepstrike behind enemy lines. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829702.page GMT
So far the Pred has been ok. I have it at triple lacannons right now. Many people have opinions on how to best run the Predator configuration. I'd say use it to fill a weakness in your army. For example my Chaos army is Deathguard and as such is lacking in long range anti tank and monsterous creatures. Thus I equipped it with triple lascannons. However going forward I am thinking of going autocannon and two lascannons as it saves 30 points. The dakka pred (autocannon, 2 heavy bolters) is only 100 points and eats armor 4+ T3 guys for breakfast. So basically, I'd do 2 (Defiler or Vindy) 1 Pred. Or you can just go with the herd and run Obliterator spam ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829713.page GMT
Thanks ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/829860.page GMT
You can add extra anti-tank firepower in your elite slots through the use of dreadnoughts or deepstriking terminators. You could also use raptors with meltaguns or a Lord on a bike with a powerfist and combi-melta.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830525.page GMT
If not, im prob going to run a squad of 10 termies that deepstrike as well as a couple of dreadnaughts.

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830558.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830891.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830891.page GMT HS slots. If memory serves me right, defilers can fleet, which means they can be pretty fast. they'd also serve as pretty good mobile firepower, so my preference goes to them. Vindicators could also work, at the expense of CC ability. I'm actually considering making a similar list for 2500, I'm wondering if it would work... hmm...

key thing is, keep everything moving at approximately the same speed. defilers work nicely along side dreads because they do exactly that. Would suggest making the dreads moderately armed, autocannons or plasma cannons would do well, just nothing greater than S7. it's unlikely that they would destroy themselves or other friendly, particularly if they're daemonically possessed.

It could even be fluffy. I'm really liking this idea. takes a lot of points, but It'd probably be good.

2 daemon princes of khorne, wings, 280.

10 khorne berserkers, 210, power weapon champ +30, 240. (or fist for 10 more points, but I'd say it isn't necessary with the dreads)
240 * 3 = 720
1100 so far.
+3 land raiders, 660
1760

3 dreads, options are:
2CC weapons, heavy flamer: 105 * 3 = 315.
twin autocannon, and heavy flamer 115*3 = 345,
plasma cannon, heavy flamer 110 * 3 = 330
Each of these works, or you could go for one of each. Flamers are there because cover is so useful now.

Let's go with the most expensive version; If you take less, add powerfists.
345 +1760 = 2105

2 defilers @ 150 each, 300.
2405 points.
for the remaining points, you could add just about anything. I would say daemonic possession on just about everything would be a good plan. 60 for the land raiders.

...WHAT THE HELL?! DREADNOUGHTS CAN'T BE DAEMONICALLY POSSESSED?!
*pounds head on desk. walks over to whoever the hell wrote this codex, presents him with official epic failure award.*
guhhhhhhhhhhhhh

add a vindicator if you're going to do anything, and take the trip CCW dreads.
It'd work, methinks.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830914.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/830914.page GMT LR be a dedicated xport for my Zerkers then i may take 3 defilers and 2 naughts and maybe a 10 man Termie squad that would deepstrike.

Captain Comm. you just made my day if my LR is a dedicated transport for my zerkers =)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831176.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831176.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831199.page GMT LR and take them as dedicated transports. Now when i deploy, can i have the termies in reserve for deepstrike? If so, ill deploy the Zerkers outside of the land raiders and at the start of the first turn, ill move them in the LR and then move my LR. would that still act as a dedicated transport for the termies?

If that doesnt work, could i just start the termies in the LR, jump them out then jump zerkers in. This would kind of suck to do considering the termies would have to then run to the enemy...not good.

Thoughts on how to make this happen so i can atleast field 3 LR and 2 defilers?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/247633/831217.page GMT