Schepp himself wrote:I'm just asking because Scorpions seem to deal almost as much damage against Meq than Banshees but are superior against almost all other targets, especially hordes. Combine that with the ability to outflank with or without a serpent. the "best" choice seem rather obvious. I will use the ladies nonetheless, but I don't see fleeting cutting it for the Banshees.

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Schepp himself

skipdog172 wrote:I just hate the 3 strength on banshees. If you have doom then they are fine, but without it can be painful at times.

statu- concerning your sig, why the 6 attacks at I 6? where does that come from in a scorpion squad? and why would scorpions nearly always be hitting on a 3+? they have 4 WS, not 5.

Anarchyman99 wrote:Banshees Acrobatic option is very nice, they always get the +1 Attack even when charged, as well as swinging first.

Nurglitch wrote:Banshees also do better against Terminators.

Yup, against Assault Terminators. Hitting first with Power Weapons murders Lightening Claws and Storm Shields alike.

Nurglitch wrote:Incidentally, against Doomed Terminators w/Storm Shields, Howling Banshees are ~30% more effective.

Edit: Corrected another error. I shouldn't be so lazy with the copy-paste function.

Nurglitch wrote: My opinion is that you should take both, in the company of a Farseer for the Doom, and an Autarch for the reserve bonus.

Likewise the small number of expected casualties, and curiously fractional value, may distract from the fact that wounds are purely considered as positive integers in the game. You can't score 1.66... wounds in the game, for example. But you can see that the Banshees and the Scorpions can be expected to do equally well against Terminators with Storm Shields

mrdabba wrote:The main reason I use Banshees over scorps is fleet. the target is always doomed so killing power is not a factor.


A good player can avoid a charge from scorpions almost very time.

I play mech so Scorps would have to be run in a wave. The trick to playing mech eldar is getting your waves just the right distance from the enemy for a next turn charge. Too close and you risk rear shots on your wave or having your wave getting surrounded in CC and taken down on a wreck all passengers die. To far and you risk the assault not happening.

Scorps only have a 12 inch charge radius. easy to avoid simply by moving away or assaulting as noted above. Even just running to the the rear access and blocking there disembark next turn avoids the assault. Banshees on the other hand have an 18 inch possible charge radius so its much easier to place waves for a next turn charge with them.

BTW I always run banshees with eldrad in a wave. if I'm within 12 he simply gets out with them if I'm on he stays in the wave and within 6 inches of them so that he can fortune,doom again if needed and they can rejoin him after combat is over. usually only takes 1 turn since banshees wipe out units on the charge. If not running eldrad than its always a seer that also has fleet so he goes along with them.