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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Terminator weaponry"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842035.page GMT Terminator weaponry

The_HoFF wrote:I would like to field a unit of 10 terminators. I like ridiculous units like that. But I can't decide between 2 assault cannons or two cyclone missile launchers. Which is the best decision?

Some like the Cyclone for the S8 shot and that you can shoot it in addition to the storm bolter. Some like the Assault Cannons for the rending and amount of shots.

Me? I like the refreshing taste of Crystal Light.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842043.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842050.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842050.page GMT Terminator weaponry why haven't you jumped on the 10 TH/SS Assault Terminators yet?

Honestly, I think the assault cannon is better. Although I guess it depends what the rest of your army has.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842056.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry TH/SS go great with Terminators... and Crystal Light.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842057.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry
Actually I would play a few games with your termies against friends who don't mind you testing out either Cyclones or Assault cannons. Just pick a non-permanent way to designate which two you're using as testbeds and let your opponent know which weapons they're using.

That way you can get a feel for the weapons and see if either ends up being more effective, or if they fit your style of play a little better.

What you should never do, however, is drink Crystal Light. When they harvest it from the oceans, thousands of dolphins are caught in their nets. Please, think of the dolphins.

DoW

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Normally I'd say go with what you like best or whatever suits your fancy, but assault cannons are HOT.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842405.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842523.page GMT Terminator weaponry

punkisntdeadyet wrote:I think the better question is...
why haven't you jumped on the 10 TH/SS Assault Terminators yet?

QFT]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842613.page GMT Terminator weaponry CML. I like them because you are getting better range than the AC, you can ID Nobs and their equivalent, and you can reliably pop light armor. You also are not losing a couple of SBs like if you were taking the ACs. 10 Termies (w/2xCML), 20 SB shots, 4 S8 AP3 shots all at BS4, niceeee]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842648.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842648.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842702.page GMT Terminator weaponry Str 8 AP 3. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842709.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842709.page GMT Terminator weaponry dev. squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842718.page GMT Terminator weaponry CML is my favorite. Last edition, it was a single lame missle, this edition, it's a 2 shot missle launcher. You can choose between Frag and Krak as needed, and don't loose a Storm Bolter. 5 with CML some massive output. Ten with 2xCML is almost rude, all the firepower of a RLx4 Dev Squad, plus it fires on the move, has greater resilience, and Assault 2 24" Bolters. Where's the downside?

I say just try them all out. The HF has the least all-around ability but is far from useless. The CML is probably the best all-around, but in certain situations where cover and range aren't an issue, the Assault Cannon has more bite.

However, for your intellectual consumption, think one step further. Ask not what ten Terminators with two Cyclone Missle Launchers can do... Ask what more it can do with a Terminator Librarian dedicated to porting them around with Gate of Infinity.

(Rear armor + (Missle x 4)) + OMGWTFBBQ = Greatness]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842737.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842784.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842805.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842805.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842837.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842837.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842874.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842874.page GMT Terminator weaponry AC had the advantage it can actually penetrate AV 14 but the CML has more range.

If your Terminators are not in a Land Raider (which if they stay is a squad of 10 they can not be) then I would go with the CML just for the range.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842904.page GMT Terminator weaponry AC wins out over the cyclone hands down against rear armor because of the rate of fire difference. Turn 1 drop 3 AC (or MM) dreads, turn 2 start rolling for deep strike on the terms and 2 units of sternguard in pods and start killing the daisy pickers in droves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842972.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/842972.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry IMO, and Cyclones would keep getting caught on low doorframes when your chasing genesneakers on a space hulk!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843009.page GMT Terminator weaponry SM book. I only had it happen a couple of times, but that was enough to spook me before I rolled for it. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843069.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843069.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry SM codex I would have said assault cannons, but their days in the sun are over. At least until the next SM codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843142.page GMT Terminator weaponry
10 Terms w/
4 ChainFists
2 CSM

Here are the points for CSM over Assault Cannon.

1. Its great against Monstrous targets, Wraithlords, Daemon Princes, Avatars, C'Tan.

2. Its Fantastic in CC as you can fire off 4 STR8 shots and still assault a Monstrous if you have to. This comes down to really fantastic when you consider it INSTAKILLS nobz.

3. Its incredible against Transports which is where most armies are going these days. STR8 against 12 is awesome.

4. It does not have penetration power for AV14 but honestly you should have Multimeltas and Melta guns for that.

5. Its completely and utterly brutal against horde armies, 4 Blast Templates plus 20 shots yes, please. That can wipe out a 30 man ork mob it the right positioning of markers.

Assault cannons are awesome but they just do not compare to that Hvy2. It barely just eeks by in my opinion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843173.page GMT Terminator weaponry
But assault cannons with str. 6 and rending are more then enough to shred a land raider, with the right amount of luck!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843448.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843448.page GMT Terminator weaponry LR let's say you shoot 2 assault cannons at it. I'll be generous, 8 shots at BS4, 6 hit. Roll for armor penetration, 4 - 5's or less and 2 - 6's so you have two rending hits. Roll 2 d3 for rending. Let's say you manage to roll a 3 and a 6 for one glancing hit and one penetrating hit.

Granted of course you can roll that well and of course you can only glance a LR with a CML, but as hollismason said you have melta and other things to deal with Armor 14.

Edit: 1000 posts baby. And it matches perfectly with my Avatar.

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You have to hit w/ the shots, which you get 4, then roll a six, then to pen you have to roll a 3+.

I am sure someone knows the odds of this happening.

Thats the reason I like the ten man term squad w/ 2 cyclones and 3 or 4 chainfists.

You can deepstrike them with in six of a drop pod then fire everything you need to and next turn start assaulting or whatever.

They also rule because you can fire 4 krak missiles into a squad to soften them up and assaut.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843472.page GMT Terminator weaponry AC . . . then they bring out the new codex with the awesome Cyclone rules . . . I almost cried, until I decided I would just use Land Speeder Typhoons instead =p]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843984.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/843984.page GMT Terminator weaponry AC's, but not w/ 4 krak missles! It seems a bit wasteful...no offense.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844248.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844256.page GMT Terminator weaponry

Hollismason wrote:I am sure someone knows the odds of this happening.
Thats the reason I like the ten man term squad w/ 2 cyclones and 3 or 4 chainfists.

Chance of getting a Kill (Wrecked/Destoyed)
Range ~ 24” ~~~ 48”
Wepn ~ AC ~~~~ CML
AV14 ~ 04.94% ~ 00.00%
AV13 ~ 09.88% ~ 07.41%
AV12 ~ 14.81% ~ 14.81%
AV11 ~ 14.81% ~ 22.22%
AV10 ~ 29.63% ~ 29.63%

An Assault Cannon has the same odds as a TL Lazcannon of dealing with heavy armour]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844323.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844323.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry TL-LCs have 5% less chance of killing AV10 with one round of shooting as an Assault Cannon. However, they are 5% more efficient at dealing with AV11. After that, they are really basically the same, which astonishes me, especially in the AV14 case, where the TL-LC is really just 0,1% better than an assault cannon.

(This seemed so odd to me that I had to do the mathhammer myself.

)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844360.page GMT Terminator weaponry CML as you have a 12 inch threat range with it.

Its useful when dealing with Ironclads etc...

Just use them they're worth the 5 points.

edit:
To the Mathhammer, that is pretty interesting so basically a 2 Asscannon squad has like a 10 percent chance to blow up a landraider.

Although almost all transports are 12 armour or less, so hrmmf. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/844649.page GMT Terminator weaponry CML is really only needed to glance the LR if you have a chainfist (or really just a power fist).
I might be doing the math wrong, but I think you have a much better chance of glancing AV14 with a ML, and then walking over and carving it up, than with an AC. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845111.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845111.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845133.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845133.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845154.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/845154.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/848798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/848798.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry

Canonness Rory wrote:10 termies with the cyclone + lysander = the best thing ever.

Not better than Shrike + 10 Assault Termies, or Vulkan with 10 TH/SS termies...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/849156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/849156.page GMT Terminator weaponry TH and SS in a Crusader its the bestest.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/849287.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/849287.page GMT Terminator weaponry IG Shooting at just 5 Ass-Termies and Vulkan I'll have to agree with Hollismason.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/850564.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/850564.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/850587.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/850587.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry

Yeah that 3+ invulnerable save makes them NASTY!!!

Where's the Callidus when you need her?

DoW

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DogOfWar wrote:

Yeah that 3+ invulnerable save makes them NASTY!!!

Where's the Callidus when you need her?

DoW

Right behind them

Not better than Shrike + 10 Assault Termies, or Vulkan with 10 TH/SS termies...

But we're talking about shooty termies here. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/851903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/851903.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry

Canonness Rory wrote:

DogOfWar wrote:
Yeah that 3+ invulnerable save makes them NASTY!!!

Where's the Callidus when you need her?

DoW

Right behind them

Not better than Shrike + 10 Assault Termies, or Vulkan with 10 TH/SS termies...

But we're talking about shooty termies here.

But this is the internets . . . people can't stay on topic for more than 2 posts! That would just make far too much sense!

Assault Cannons!!! EVERY TIME! =]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856233.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry

But this is the internets . . . people can't stay on topic for more than 2 posts! That would just make far too much sense!

That's a negative stereotype and I'd appreciate it if you didn... oo shiny!

DoW

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And yes I do chaff a load of rubbish . . . I'm well aware of it, but I enjoy to chaff the night away =D]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856329.page GMT Terminator weaponry http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/856340.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry CML it's not for termis imo. Even the shooty ones are a hth choice and while getting there the AC is more viable to their case. It's generic, has lots of shots and looks great

Never liked the HFlamer on termis anyway... and all the good things the CML can bring to you can be achieved by Typhoon Speeders. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/857060.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/857060.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry MEQ troops and can pop most tanks with ease.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/857708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/857708.page GMT Re:Terminator weaponry

Dark Angles: Belial [LC], a Damocles Rhino, Deathwing Assault [CL/TH] with Cyclone

Space Wolves: AC and a LRC [Assault Cannon, Thunder Hammer/Power Weapon]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/858076.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/248412/858076.page GMT