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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Captain  170pts<br /> Termie Armor, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> ELITE<br /> Assault Terminator 400pts<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> TROOP<br /> Tactical (full 10) 250pts<br /> Flamer<br /> Missile Launcher<br /> Sgt. w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Combi-plasma<br /> Drop Pod w/ locator beacon<br /> <br /> TROOP<br /> Tactical (full 10) 240pts<br /> Flamer<br /> Missile Launcher<br /> Sgt. w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Combi-plasma<br /> Drop Pod<br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK<br /> Land Speeder Squadron  100pts<br /> x1<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <br /> FAST ATTACK<br /> Land Speeder Squadron  100pts<br /> x1<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span><br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT<br /> Land Raider Redeemer  240pts<br /> <br /> <br /> The Captain rides with a Combat Squad of 5 Termies in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>.  The other Combat Squad of Termies deepstrikes in.<br /> <br /> The Drop Pod <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> w/ the beacon drops first with the beacon assisting the other drop pod and deepstriking terminators.<br /> <br /> The Land Speeders provide flanking support to take out armor or to help thin out hordes.<br /> <br /> I've equiped the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads to mostly deal with infantry.  The missile launcher is for versatility, I'm mostly gonna use it for frag but in the event that I need some sort of anti-armor or anti-high toughness, I have it handy.<br /> <br /> One motivation behind this list was the ease of modeling it as well.  Everything is pretty much available in present kits.  The captain is pretty much a Terminator with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squad with the exception of the sgt.s comes with all the options described.  The sgt.s I see as two commander kits.  The Land Speeders, drop pods, and the Land Raider Redeemer also come as complete kits.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jul 2009 05:55:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ djphranq]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Vanilla SM easy to model/teensy bit competitive; C&amp;C would be appreciated</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Here is the list I would suggest:<br /> 1500 Pts - Space Marines Roster - Unnamed<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Space Marine Chaplain (1#, 140 Pts)<br />    1 Space Marine Chaplain @ 140 Pts<br />       ...in Terminator Armour<br />       1 ...in Terminator Armour @ [140] Pts<br />          Crozius Arcanum; Rosarius; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun<br />          1 Terminator Armour @ [0] Pts<br /> <br /> Elite: Terminator Assault Squad (10#, 400 Pts)<br />    9 Terminator Assault Squad @ 400 Pts<br />       Lightning Claws (pair) (x5); Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield (x4)<br />       1 Terminator Armour @ [0] Pts<br />       1 Sergeant @ [40] Pts<br />          Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield (x1)<br />          1 Terminator Armour @ [0] Pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 260 Pts)<br />    9 Tactical Squad @ 260 Pts<br />       Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod<br />       1 Sergeant @ [63] Pts<br />          Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Power Fist<br />       1 Drop Pod @ [45] Pts<br />          Storm Bolter; Locator Beacon<br />          1 Locator Beacon @ [0] Pts<br /> <br /> Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 260 Pts)<br />    9 Tactical Squad @ 260 Pts<br />       Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Meltagun; Missile Launcher; Drop Pod<br />       1 Sergeant @ [63] Pts<br />          Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Power Fist<br />       1 Drop Pod @ [45] Pts<br />          Storm Bolter; Locator Beacon<br />          1 Locator Beacon @ [0] Pts<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: Land Raider Redeemer (1#, 240 Pts)<br />    1 Land Raider Redeemer @ 240 Pts<br />       Frag Assault Launchers; Power of the Machine Spirit; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Twin Linked Assault Cannon; Flamestorm Cannons (x2)<br />       1 Frag Assault Launchers @ [0] Pts<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 100 Pts)<br />    1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 100 Pts<br />       Multi-Melta (x1); Assault Cannon (x1)<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 100 Pts)<br />    1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 100 Pts<br />       Multi-Melta (x1); Assault Cannon (x1)<br /> <br /> Total Roster Cost: 1500<br /> <br /> First thing is first, the captain was a glorified 170 point terminator, which is almost the cost of a whole squad of terminators. So instead I added a chaplain. With him you reroll failed to hit rolls on the charge, have some buffer with wound allocation, and are fearless.<br /> Secondly I changed out all of the combi plasma's with combi melta's. This gives you more vehicle popping, and gives you insta-kill against toughness 4.<br /> With the extra points I gave you meltabombs for more anti tank in case something tank shocks you and another locator beacon in case the first squad gets wiped. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:20:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ezekiel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Vanilla SM easy to model/teensy bit competitive; C&amp;C would be appreciated</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Totally forgot about the chaplain... I could totally see using him instead]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jul 2009 06:29:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ djphranq]]></author>
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				<title>1500 Vanilla SM easy to model/teensy bit competitive; C&amp;C would be appreciated</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I hate it when people do those lists where they list necessary wargear and special rules and stuff. It looks so sloppy and hard to read. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:17:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Canonness Rory]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's copy and pastes form army builder. People should be dropping individual points costs anyway, I hear it is illegal to post them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:01:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Fearspect]]></author>
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