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				<description><![CDATA[ 3 Land Raider/ Black Templars Army	I have always wanted to field my 3 landraiders.  Landraider Crusader with 15 Troopers. I started with the Landraiders and the 14 troopers with a Chaplain. I wanted to make  more of a Assault army. I like the holy aspect of the black Templars<br /> <br /> 	The holy hand grenade sounded cool, I have the 1st ed Medic figure. 3 scoring units, 2 just for holding objectives.<br /> <br /> ? should I put the troops with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> to get to the objective fast then deploy the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> or have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> on foot and shoot targets at the start of the game?<br />  I got the Melta Bombs for vehicles or DN (? trade for weapon, marshal with master crafted Power sword ?)<br /> <br /> Do I really need the Chaplain? besides having a real cool model. The whole Army has Prefered enemy {re roll failed assault to hit}and fearless in close combat. All units use the Marshal’s <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>ld</span> for morale checks.<br /> the chaplain  adds: fearless, Litanies of hate-{re roll failed assault to hit ON turn they charged.}<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(149);'>WS</span> 5 model with power weapon and storm bolter. *Some Character should be used to gain access to armory equipment. this for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with 15 models.<br /> <br /> Army list:  Emperor’s Champion ,Accept any Challenge <br /> Marshal Leading iniate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> :Furious Charge , Holy Orb of Antioch  ,Melta Bombs , Frag, Storm Bolter <br /> 	Master Crafted Combat Weapon {* I would like to make into a power weapon.? w/o <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> }<br /> <br /> Iniate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> :All have Bolt Pistols and Combat Weapons <br /> 8 Initiates , Furious Charge, Upgrade Medic , Frags , 1 X Melta Gun, 1 X flamer<br /> 	.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> Support Transport,Extra Armor ,Smoke <br /> <br /> Troops for holding objectives<br /> 5 Initiates , 1 X Flamer, 4 Neophytes <br /> 5 Initiates, 1 X Flamer, 1X Missile Launcher , 4 Neophytes *Land Raider Support Transport<br /> <br /> Troops. Assault Unit: Bolt Pistols and Combat Weapons <br /> 10 Initiates,4 neophytes: Frags ,1X Power Weapon, 1 X flamer<br />  * Land Raider Crusader Transport<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Chaplain Master of Sancity, Leading Troop Assault Unit <br /> <br /> Standard weapons:Crozius Arcanum, Rosaius,Crusader Seals (0 pts)<br /> Melta Bombs, Frags , Storm Bolter<br /> <br /> Heavy Support 2 X Land Raiders ,Extra Armor ,Smoke<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> marines get shoot dont they run away or run towards the guys who shot them.<br /> I won a match that way, but looks good.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Give your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> terminator honors.  Beyond that, you might want to make your list a little easier to read. I don't know how many points it's for, and it's a bit hard to pick out the individual units.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:56:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry, It is for 1850 local turnaments. I did not give the points for the units because I was told <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> gets mad. "We are providing a army list for people don't pay for." <br /> If it is OK to give points for each unit. I will.<br /> In the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> codex, terminator honors gave the model 1 extra attack. 15pts for the sarg, then 10 pts all other models.<br /> Should the troop unit with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> be deployed in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> or foot it . Maybe have shots from the set up location?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:06:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your list is very hard to read.  It's hard to tell just what you have going on there.  Browse around the Army list forum and see how everyone else formats their lists and make yours read the same, so that we can better see what you have and what you are trying to do.<br /> <br /> For example:<br /> <br /> [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>]<br /> Emperor's Champion<br /> - Accept Any Challenge<br /> <br /> Marshall<br /> - Terminator Honors<br /> - Leads Crusader Squad 1<br /> <br /> [Troops]<br /> Crusader Squad 1<br /> 10 Initiates with Bolt Pistols and Close Combat Weapons<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> See how much easier that is to read?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In a mech list like this taking a chaplain isn't necessary since most of your troop units will be hiding in transports. Being transports makes their shooting minimal, so taking any heavy weapons on them is pointless. A Marshal with Termie honors and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>'s should be enough with a command squad. Drop all that excess wargear on him...especially the master crafted weapon the guy gets to reroll all of his attacks anyways. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> joins a troops unit. I am assuming all your Land Raiders are Crusaders? Your list is hard to read.<br /> <br /> Capt K]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can't see this working, especially with all the Melta fire going around.<br /> <br /> The only time I would use more than one Land Raider is in a Deathwing Army.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> are very survivable against meltas, it usually take 3 or more to guarantee a kill. Also <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> smoke still downgrades pens to glances so if you can predict when your opponent is going to unload meltas (not that hard because of the range) they're in for a nasty surprise.<br /> <br /> Drop the Chaplain, use the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> as your beat stick in the assault squad. If your squads are assaulting out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> they don't need frags.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Aug 2009 07:09:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ avantgarde]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>avantgarde wrote:</cite><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> are very survivable against meltas, it usually take 3 or more to guarantee a kill. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> well ironic 3 meltas is exactly what most <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> vet squads are toting ... and they only cost 100 pts plus transport god help you if they ride vendettas 3 twinlinked lasscannons before droping 3 melta vets. given though that they are dead as soon as you <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> disentangle themselves]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 1 Aug 2009 07:21:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ caesar_uec]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ There's to ways to deal with that. Like defilading the tanks in an echelon or meat shielding cheaper units. The Chimeras have to close to 6" to scratch the paint while the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BTs</span> can field a large amount of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> and have a decent chance of scraping the Chimera even outside of half range.<br /> <br /> I'm not a big fan of just straight Raider spam, since it'll have problems against Mech. Vets (like you said) and Mech Eldar with FDragons.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 3 Land Raider/ Black Templars Army	<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Emperor’s Champion 140 pts<br /> 	Accept any Challenge <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Marshal 80 pts { Total  points 119 }<br /> 	Furious Charge 3 pts, Holy Orb of Antioch 10pts ,Melta Bombs 5, Frag 1pt, Storm Bolter 5 pts<br /> 	Power  Weapon 15pts<br /> <br /> Iniate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> <br /> :Assault ,All have Bolt Pistols and Combat Weapons { Total unit points 189+ 258 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>}<br /> 8 Initiates 128 pts., <br /> 	Furious Charge 24 pts, Upgrade Medic 15 pts, Frags 8pts, 1 X Melta Gun 10pts.<br /> 	*Land Raider Support Transport 250 pts,Extra Armor 5,Smoke 3<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> 5 Initiates (80 pts), 1 X Flamer, 4 Neophytes (40pts) { Total unit points  126}(Foot Troops)<br /> <br /> 5 Initiates (80 pts), 1 X Flamer, 1X Missile Launcher 10 pts, 4 Neophytes (40pts) { Total unit points 136 }<br /> 	*Land Raider Support Transport <br /> <br /> Troops. Assault Unit: Bolt Pistols and Combat Weapons {Unit points 224 + 268 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>} <br /> 	10 Initiates (160 pts),  4 neophytes (40pts): Frags (14 pts),1 Power Weapon (10 Pts)<br /> 	* Land Raider Crusader Transport<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> Chaplain Master of Sancity (110 pts) Leading Troop Assault Unit { Total points  121}<br /> 	Standard weapons:Crozius Arcanum, Rosaius,Crusader Seals (0 pts)<br /> 	Melta Bombs(5 pts), Frags (1pt), Storm Bolter (5 pts)<br /> <br /> <br /> Heavy Support 2 X Land Raiders (250 pts each),Extra Armor (5 pts) ,Smoke ( 3 pts)<br /> 	Transporting Initiate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and Troop Unit<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Above is the army list with points as requested. There are 2 standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> and 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>. I have had the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> since 1 ed but never played them together.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ resinmann]]></author>
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