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				<title>Warriors of Tzeentch - 2000 Pts. - Please Critique</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright everyone, I am new to Fantasy. I've been playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> since December of 08'. <br /> I don't have any models except for 12 warriors (coming in the mail friday) and 5 Chosen.<br /> So, any suggestions as to something for me to buy, would be greatly appreciated. <br /> <br /> Warning: I don't like Ogres. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Sorcerer Lord - 315 pts.<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span>. 4<br /> * Mark of Tzeentch<br /> * Disk of Tzeentch<br /> *Golden Eye of Tzeentch<br /> *Rending Sword<br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer - 190<br /> *<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span>. 2<br /> *Mark of Tzeentch<br /> Blood of Tzeentch<br /> *Disk of Tzeentch<br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer - 165<br /> * <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span>. 2<br /> *Mark of Tzeentch<br /> *Blasphemus Amulet<br /> <br /> Chaos Sorcerer - 180<br /> *<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span>. 2<br /> *Mark of Tzeentch<br /> *Disk of Tzeentch<br /> *Power Stone<br /> <br /> Core:<br /> Chaos Warriors - 268<br /> * 16 Men<br /> * Shields<br /> * Standard Bearer<br /> <br /> Chaos Warriors - 268<br /> * 16 Men<br /> * Shields<br /> * Standard Bearer<br /> <br /> Chaos Marauders - 128<br /> *20 Men<br /> *Shields<br /> *Light Armor<br /> <br /> Chaos Marauders - 128<br /> *20 Men<br /> *Shields<br /> *Light Armor<br /> <br /> Special:<br /> Chosen Command - 238<br /> *10 Men<br /> *Mark of Tzeentch<br /> *Great Weapons<br /> *Standard Bearer<br /> <br /> Chaos Knights - 220<br /> *5 Men<br /> *Standard Bearer<br /> <br /> <br /> Total = 2100]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Buggin' Warrior]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Warriors of Tzeentch - 2000 Pts. - Please Critique</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In WFB you typically have a battle line of 3-4 units (which you have) plus flanking and support (magic/shooting) units.<br /> <br /> I'd recommend more flanking units such as Marauder Horsemen and Warhounds. You could drop a hero to get the points.<br /> <br /> These fast cavalry can be used to do what's called charge redirection. Basically you get them in the way of your opponent's super-tough ("hammer") unit. When the hammer charges, they flee, hopefully putting the hammer in a position to be charged in the flank by your hammer (e.g. Chaos Warriors, Knights). The flankers then hopefully rally and can rejoin the fight.<br /> <br /> From a $$ standpoint you can look at the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> Battalion and see what you get, as you get a savings that way.<br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Aug 2009 21:56:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zygomax]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Warriors of Tzeentch - 2000 Pts. - Please Critique</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I'm buying about $750 worth of stuff for $250 within' the month from a friend.<br /> In it, is about 1700 points worth of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>, and a bunch of other stuff from 4 different armies. <br /> <br /> It's not the stuff in the list that I want, but it does include some Knights and Warhounds.<br /> <br /> Oh, and as much as it would be good to drop a hero for the points... I am playing a heavy magic army.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:50:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Buggin' Warrior]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Warriors of Tzeentch - 2000 Pts. - Please Critique</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I need to run, but I thought I'd post up my tweaked-through version of your list.  It turned out some of your points were off, and between that and adding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> to things for maximum fluff (and 6+ wards) I ran out of points pretty quickly.  You'll note that it's in fact 2001 points, but I really don't know what to cut - basically, somebody is losing their musician, and I'm loathe to make the call who.<br /> <br /> Anyway:<br /> <br /> L:  Sorcerer Lord - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, golden eye, level 4, disc = 335<br /> H:  Sorcerer - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, infernal puppet, level 2 = 175<br /> H:  Sorcerer - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, level 2, disc = 160<br /> H:  Sorcerer - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, level 2, disc = 160<br /> <br /> C:  15 Warriors - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, full command, shields = 290<br /> C:  15 Warriors - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, full command, shields = 290<br /> C:  5 Horsemen - musician, flails = 81<br /> <br /> S:  10 Chosen - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, standard, musician, great weapons, shields = 260<br /> S:  5 Knights - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, standard, musician = 250<br /> ------<br /> 2001<br /> 54<br /> 12 / 7<br /> <br /> Speed run down ...<br /> <br /> H: Stripped out all the items that were inessential, leaving a puppet so the level 4 can go big and the eye so he can stay alive.  I've never seen sorcerers this simplified, but you've got a monstrous magic phase smashed into 2000 points.<br /> <br /> C: Warriors got marked up and shrunk to 3x5 formation, and the largely useless marauder infantry were ground up for points and some flailing cav that will be much more useful for you.<br /> <br /> S: Chosen got shields to survive some shooting, and the knights got marked up.  Across the army your command upgrades were beefed out more, cause musicians, especially in a not-ItP army, are going to be worth it.<br /> <br /> - Salvage]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Boss Salvage]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>Id</span> recommend playing some demo games before committing to this list.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Leith]]></author>
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