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Thanks in advance,
Typhon, lord of the zombie plague]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/898802.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/898802.page GMT Re:Starting Ogres? .


Have fun and remember, if the going gets toughg there are always more Gnoblars where they came from!

LLF]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/919186.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/919186.page GMT Starting Ogres?
*This is THE only competative list in the current metagame, MSU Ogres...

(Note I don't have my book with me ATM)
Tyrant with the tenderiser
x3 butchers, 2 dispel scrolls, 1 bang stick, sickle
x3 units 3 iron guts with musicians in each
x2 to 3 units 'naked' i.e. no upgrades, bulls with musos
x2 units 2 leadbelchers, musicians
x1 unit gnoblar trappers
x1 rhinox rider (give one the warbanner), and keep them seperate.
x1 gorger
Couple small gnoblar units (muso only upgrade) if points available.

From memory that should fill the points.

The butchers each go in a seperate iron guts unit, the tyrant in one. These are your battle line units. The 3 butchers 'buff spam' your iron guts and rhinox rider.
The bulls are as cheap as you can make them as they are your bait and flee units to set up charges for your iron guts.
The leadbelchers sit on the flanks and shoot the enemy light cav flankers. Then usethem as per the naked bull units, and quarter capturers.
1 standard in the entire army to give up.
The tyrant ALWAYs challenges or goes at multi wound enemies, he will invariably give you the max overkill bonus thanks to the tenderiser.
All the musicians are so that when you invariably flee, you get the +1 to rally.
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Imagine if those 6 maybe even 9 ogres were hit by a hammer unit like Black or Chaos Knights. They're liable to break with their poor ld and let's say they were run down. You just lost a whole rank who didn't even get to fight. Ogres are so expensive losing a big unit like that would be crippling.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921501.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921501.page GMT Starting Ogres?
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
x1 rhinox rider (give one the warbanner), and keep them seperate.


what are you talking about with this unit? i cant find him in the dex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921760.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921760.page GMT Starting Ogres? WD and the rules should still be somewhere on the GW site.

The problem with huge units of bulls is that
A: They suck in combat
B: They should never, ever get the bull charge off playing against a half way decent opponent (I always run up and stand just inside 6 inches if I cannot charge them)
C: With giant units (read point sinks) you end up with a massive unit that runs in circles trying to find an opponent apart from the feeder units.
The MSU army makes a wall that allows nothing to get away.
The MSU army also benefits from letting you flee with ANY unit if it will give you a flank charge with another unit.
D: Also if you don't have a rhinox rider take a unit of 4 man eaters and give them rifles, then stick the tyrant in their. That is your anvil unit (that also gives much needed shooting) and the army revoves around this unit...
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/921862.page GMT Starting Ogres? MSU applying to Ogres, my mate is a bit of a CHARGE EVERYTHING bret/empire player. Those ogres did bust through but were promptly annihilated by his warmachine!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/922197.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/922197.page GMT Starting Ogres? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/929600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/929600.page GMT Starting Ogres? MSU... it is devestating.

What would you fear facing more?
3 units of 20 swordsmasters with command or 8 units of 7 swords masters with musos in 2250 points? (and yes I know I am comparing apples and oranges)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/930624.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/930624.page GMT Starting Ogres? MSU ogres is the only way to go as it just takes too many points to get any sort of static combat res.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/930982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/930982.page GMT Re:Starting Ogres? MSU Ogres the only competative Tourney list.

I've seen MSU Skrag Ogres do well. Cheap, plentiful Gorgers, overpowering magic, and only one frenzied guy that you have to use your MSU to keep under control.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/931169.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/251942/931169.page GMT