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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> <br /> Sorceror with Doombolt 110<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> <br /> 4 x 10 man chaos marine squads with 2 meltaguns - 680<br /> 4 rhinos - 140<br /> <br /> 940<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> <br /> 4 x Terminators with heavy flamer, 1 power fists - 135<br /> 4 x Terminators with heavy flamer, 1 power fists - 135<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> <br /> 2x Obliterators 150<br /> 2x Obliterators 150<br /> <br /> Let me know what you think :3 Also how do you think it'd fare in Killpoint games? My store's independent and plays with victory points instead <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Aug 2009 08:38:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Zoot]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1500 Competitive CSM (using VP's)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your entire heavy support comes to 4 shots.  Either get some preds or havocs.  Versatility doesnt make up for reducing your possible shots by half(or up to 1/4).  Keep 1-3 oblits, and take a squad of havocs with autocannons or 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> or something like that.  Oblits are also incredibly expensive for a single infantry unit so they make juicy targets and arent exactly invulnerable (despite the name of their 5+ save).<br /> <br /> You have a lot of melta guns, and they are great, but you might consider some plasma, but that isnt 100% necessary if you think you'll run up against lots of vehicles etc or don't want your troops getting eaten by "Get hot" rolls.<br /> <br /> I'm a big fan of heavy infantry lists, so I like what you have here so far, but you might also consider mixing in some plague marines or 1ksons and put them up front to take some shots for you.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:45:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Halsfield]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ And swap the sorerer for a Lord or Daemon Prince. A Prince will also pull some fire away from the oblitz.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:37:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Darkwulf]]></author>
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