<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...! HQ selection as part of the squad.

Under the Priest's rules it states that a unit with him MUST charge if able to.

Since you cannot premeasure before firing weapons, what is one to do if they wish to rapidfire with the sisters. Do rapid fire weapons prevent the unit from charging as always? Is Rapid Firing a valid way to avoid the priests rules stating that the unit MUST charge?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924540.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924540.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
However, pretty much every other case of this in FAQs (Blood Claws for Example) say you cannot fire the rapid fire weapons.

No official answer I suppode.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924545.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
Well, if you Rapid Fire, you cannot charge so... no, the Priest's squad doesn't have to charge.

It seems confusing when you look at it, but it's simple really.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924546.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924546.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...! FAQ, but you can't fire rapid fire weapons if it would prevent the priest's squad from assaulting. The rule basically is that you can't measure unless you are asked to, so I would say that this would actually be permission to measure before you fire.

From the witchhunters FAQ:

"this rule effectively means that units with an attached priest may never fire a rapid fire weapon if they are within charge range of an enemy."

So, again, it pretty much gives you permission to measure.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924554.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
willydstyle wrote:I believe it's in the FAQ, but you can't fire rapid fire weapons if it would prevent the priest's squad from assaulting. The rule basically is that you can't measure unless you are asked to, so I would say that this would actually be permission to measure before you fire.

From the witchhunters FAQ:

"this rule effectively means that units with an attached priest may never fire a rapid fire weapon if they are within charge range of an enemy."

So, again, it pretty much gives you permission to measure.
The way I see this occurring in a game is:

1. Declare that you wish to rapid fire in the shooting phase
2. Measure to see if you are within 6" of an enemy unit
3. If you aren't, then you may shoot - if not, no shooting at all
4. Charge in the assault phase if you are within distance.

Am I right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924715.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
unistoo wrote:
willydstyle wrote:I believe it's in the FAQ, but you can't fire rapid fire weapons if it would prevent the priest's squad from assaulting. The rule basically is that you can't measure unless you are asked to, so I would say that this would actually be permission to measure before you fire.

From the witchhunters FAQ:

"this rule effectively means that units with an attached priest may never fire a rapid fire weapon if they are within charge range of an enemy."

So, again, it pretty much gives you permission to measure.
The way I see this occurring in a game is:

1. Declare that you wish to rapid fire in the shooting phase
2. Measure to see if you are within 6" of an enemy unit
3. If you aren't, then you may shoot - if not, no shooting at all
4. Charge in the assault phase if you are within distance.

Am I right?


That's how I would do it too, but technically if you measure for shooting then you count as shooting, so *technically* it would necessitate it's own pre-shooting range measurement. I think the simplest way to do it would be as you described, however.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924743.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924752.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924752.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
Rulebook doesnt say you can...I suppose certain FAQ's might.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924756.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
Deadshane1 wrote:Problem is, when you declare that you're going to shoot...can you actually decide NOT to shoot after measuring ranges?

Rulebook doesnt say you can...I suppose certain FAQ's might.
The rulebook says you can choose to not fire before measuring range....

Yay GW rules writing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924794.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
willydstyle wrote:
unistoo wrote:
willydstyle wrote:I believe it's in the FAQ, but you can't fire rapid fire weapons if it would prevent the priest's squad from assaulting. The rule basically is that you can't measure unless you are asked to, so I would say that this would actually be permission to measure before you fire.

From the witchhunters FAQ:

"this rule effectively means that units with an attached priest may never fire a rapid fire weapon if they are within charge range of an enemy."

So, again, it pretty much gives you permission to measure.
The way I see this occurring in a game is:

1. Declare that you wish to rapid fire in the shooting phase
2. Measure to see if you are within 6" of an enemy unit
3. If you aren't, then you may shoot - if not, no shooting at all
4. Charge in the assault phase if you are within distance.

Am I right?


That's how I would do it too, but technically if you measure for shooting then you count as shooting, so *technically* it would necessitate it's own pre-shooting range measurement. I think the simplest way to do it would be as you described, however.


I'd only take the measuring stick out 6". That solves the problem right there.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924809.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924809.page GMT Re:Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
Your unit is 5" away from an enemy unit, and 10" away from another. You cannot rapid fire, but don't want to charge the unit - could you fire an assault weapon at the further unit, since you can only assault a unit you shot at?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924825.page GMT Re:Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
unistoo wrote:A further question:

Your unit is 5" away from an enemy unit, and 10" away from another. You cannot rapid fire, but don't want to charge the unit - could you fire an assault weapon at the further unit, since you can only assault a unit you shot at?


That's tricksy Based on the FAQ I'd say "no" but it's murky.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924847.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924847.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...! Codex says you must charge if in charge range.
Obviously that means you can't fire anything but Assault/Pistol weapons.

However, if you declare that you shoot, you don't -have- to fire -all- your weapons. So if you have assault/pistol weapons in your squad and find out you'Re withing charge range, you can choose to fire only those. Even if all you have is Rapid Fire/Heavy (but then why would you ad a Priest to such a squad?), you can still choose to fire no weapons at all. Then it doesn't prevent them from charging.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924893.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924893.page GMT Rapid Fire? ....but it says you MUST charge...!
InquisitorBob wrote:Codex overrrules rulebook.
No, not always. See Sweeping Advance as an Example
However, if you declare that you shoot, you don't -have- to fire -all- your weapons
Except that you declare what unit is shooting at what target and what weapons they are firing BEFORE measuring range. So you cannot say "I am shooting this", measure, and then go "Actually, I wont".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253514/924908.page GMT