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				<description><![CDATA[ I am working out variations on a 1500 list for my Black Templars, but I hit this issue with every list:<br /> <br /> In a 1500 list w/ either Assault Termies or Crusader squad filled would you field a single Land Raider Crusader?<br /> <br /> So............<br /> <br /> Single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> w/ 5 Assault Termies and a Marshal<br /> 2 Rhinos<br /> 1 Vindicator<br /> 1 Tri-Las Predator<br /> Dreadnought<br /> <br /> or<br /> <br /> Single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> w/ large Initiate squad and Chaplain<br /> 2 Rhinos<br /> 1 Vindicator<br /> 1 Tri-Las Predator<br /> Dreadnought<br /> <br /> or<br /> <br /> 3 Rhinos w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span>, Chaplain and Castellan lead initiate squads<br /> 1 Vindicator<br /> 1 Tri-Las Predator<br /> Dreadnought<br /> Attack Bikes]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:27:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Da-Rock]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Question if this is a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> army list where's the Emperor's Champion?<br /> <br /> ... but any way i would be mightly tempted to lose the Tri-Las Predator (or Vindicator) and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> (you only need take the Emperor's Champion) ; so that i could fit in another Land Raider Crusader. I'd also fill them with large (max even) Initiate squad (with the right vow they're hit 3+)<br /> <br /> of the 3  options you've give, I think the 3rds best as you could have 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> in each rhino and that means anti tank will be spread evenly over the 3 tanks.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:43:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Black Templars To LRC or Not?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ These are not lists, just a question about if I should use a single Land Raider Crusader or split into 3 Rhinos with more support.  My <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> gets popped no later then turn 3 and 90% of the time before it unloads.<br /> <br /> I don't own a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> so that is why I am looking at if I should run one or not.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:07:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Da-Rock]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> with two big <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> squads usually. Most of the time i have pretty good success, but i often have trouble with mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> lists. That is about the only thing that i consistently have trouble with. my ard boyz list:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span><br /> Sword breth<br /> Marshall<br /> Chap<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span><br /> x8 assault termies<br /> <br /> x2 crusader squads /w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>PG</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PC</span><br />       x1 in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span><br /> <br /> Ven dread in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span><br /> <br /> Dread in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span><br /> <br /> x2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span> speeders]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:41:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tekk_45]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You should really take advantage of the fact that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>'s as dedicated transports for troops.<br /> <br /> 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>'s with Crusader Squads are pretty tough.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:45:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I can see why you question whether to run only one or not. you need to have something else on the board that poses as much of a threat as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> if you arent going to run more than one of them. <br /> <br /> 99% of the time a lone <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is going to draw fire until it dies. I think you should invest in another if you have the means. because it is often very daunting for your enemy to see two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> bearing down on them hard. <br /> <br /> However if you dont have the means keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> just use it to draw fire while you get everything else into place. The longer its alive the longer they will concentrate on it.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:48:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tekk_45]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Black Templars To LRC or Not?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I like the idea of a second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>lrc</span> as well.  anytime I try and put a list together that doesn't take advantage of their dedicated transport rule it feels like something is missing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:07:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Has it been faqed so that Black templars can assault out of their Landraiders or not?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:11:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Hollismason wrote:</cite>Has it been faqed so that Black templars can assault out of their Landraiders or not?</div></blockquote><br /> No it hasn't but since every one but <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> gets it most sensible players will let you even though they've not got the rule. <br /> <br /> Another thing to note about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(15);'>BT</span> is they are one of the last codexs left with dedicated transport that can only be used by the unit the purchased it. So unless you've managed to maxed out your heavy support theres no reason to take them as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span> for another squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:28:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tri]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Hollismason wrote:</cite>Has it been faqed so that Black templars can assault out of their Landraiders or not?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes, it has.  Unfortunately, it is only in the German <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>, so you are out of luck unless you can read German.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:45:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Alerian]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In my opinion, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> are the best part of a Black Templar list.  They make fantastic assault transports.  Their strengths are heightened by the fact that Black Templars can put some of the best assault troops inside.  Assault Terminators with Furious Charge are amazing.  Being able to transport 15-man Crusader squads is also amazing.  Plus that squad essentially gets frag grenades for free.<br /> <br /> What I really like about <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> is that it gives your assault-based army some decent shooting ability.  An <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is easily the equivalent of a 10-man marine squad with heavy/special weapons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:50:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gully Foyle]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A list that I find works very well for my brother, a black templars player, it the use of two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> and two rhinos his squads are all mounted in vehicles, and the rhinos hide behind the land raiders until they need to deposit their troops.  To complement this fast and durable list, my brother also uses a drop podding Dreadnaught w/ multimelta to take out any stubborn enemy tanks or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Exarch_Nektel]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Are these in 1500 lists or 1850+?<br /> <br /> I have a hard time fielding two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> w/ two Troops and then either two Vindicators or combo of Dreadnought and Vindicator.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:46:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Da-Rock]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In 1500, one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is fine, particularly if you are fielding plenty of other armor.  Vindicators attract a lot of fire, so that will let the Crusader survive until you have at least delivered the troops inside.  Between smoke launchers, machine spirit, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> 14, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> is pretty much guaranteed to surive until delivery.<br /> <br /> By 1850/2000 points, look to having a 2nd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>.  I like to field 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> and 2 rhinos (I put an assault term squad in one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>, a large initiate + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> in the other, and then 10 man crusaders in the rhinos).  Then fill the heavy support with vindis/preds.  Thats a lot of armor on the field, with some of the best troops inside.<br /> <br /> In my opinion, save points in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>.  A chaplain is nearly pointless when you have an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> with AAC.  Marshals are good, but other things tend to have priority for me.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Gully Foyle]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Da-Rock wrote:</cite>Are these in 1500 lists or 1850+?<br /> <br /> I have a hard time fielding two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> w/ two Troops and then either two Vindicators or combo of Dreadnought and Vindicator.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I'm sorry.  I neglected to take points into account.  The list idea I posted is designed for a 1750 point list.  For a 1500 point list I would suggest i <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> and 2 rhinos.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Exarch_Nektel]]></author>
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