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				<description><![CDATA[ Come up a few times is there a minamum point value for every special characters? Or Specific ones? Some codex's say and some don't.<br /> <br /> Example using The Masque for Chaos Demons in a 500pt game or using Ghazkull thraka for that matter in the same instance? Went through the rule book and all it says is they can be unique that's basically it.<br /> <br /> The Ork Codex I cant find anything that says minimum requirements as well.<br /> <br /> Any help is appreciated.<br /> <br /> -Cheers]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:57:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Frenzied Potato]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If it doesnt say...there is no requirement.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:58:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Special Characters pt requirements?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That just seems...brutal...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:03:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Special Characters pt requirements?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Frenzied Potato wrote:</cite>That just seems...brutal...</div></blockquote>Yes, everyone plays Calgar in their 500 Point Games now... all 250 Points of him. The fact is, the points cost alone balances out. Would you rather have Ghaz or 37 More Boyz in a 500 point game?<br /> <br /> The only codexes you will find points limits are old 3rd edition Codexes. None since 4th edition <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> have had a points limit for special characters.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:13:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Special Characters pt requirements?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the help Gwar!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:16:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Frenzied Potato]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Special Characters pt requirements?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your welcome. <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:17:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ they have been phasing them out for a while. yay for phoenix lords at 500pts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:18:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On a similar topic, in those old codexes that still have them they are worded something like this: Chaplain Grimaldus may be included in Black Templar armies of 1500 points or more.<br /> <br /> Does this mean the point value has to equal 1500 or more, or does it just refer to a 1500 point game? Could you take him in a 1499 point game for example as often people are a few points under 1500 points in 1500 point games due to uneven point costs.<br /> <br /> Can the special character's point cost count towards the point? Grimaldus is about 200 points. Can it be 1500 points counting him, or does it have to be 1500 not counting him?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:20:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Drudge Dreadnought]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Special Characters pt requirements?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Deadshane1 wrote:</cite>Your welcome. <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/a634d4056bc15b21ef25d1960801aa76.gif" border="0"></div></blockquote>I still love you! -Hugs- But it is spelled "You're Welcome" <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Drudge Dreadnought wrote:</cite>On a similar topic, in those old codexes that still have them they are worded something like this: Chaplain Grimaldus may be included in Black Templar armies of 1500 points or more.<br /> <br /> Does this mean the point value has to equal 1500 or more, or does it just refer to a 1500 point game? Could you take him in a 1499 point game for example as often people are a few points under 1500 points in 1500 point games due to uneven point costs.<br /> <br /> Can the special character's point cost count towards the point? Grimaldus is about 200 points. Can it be 1500 points counting him, or does it have to be 1500 not counting him?</div></blockquote>Technically, the Points value has to be 1500 or more, including the special character. A roster of 1499 cannot have a Character needing 1500. Technically.<br /> <br /> In Practice, Games are rated on the agreed limit, with a 1499 roster vs. a 1502 Roster counting as a 1500 point game.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:22:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gwar!]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i think it means in games with a maximum army point total of X, so in your example in any game where the maximum point limit is 1500, grimaldus could be used]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:23:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ statu]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Drudge Dreadnought wrote:</cite>On a similar topic, in those old codexes that still have them they are worded something like this: Chaplain Grimaldus may be included in Black Templar armies of 1500 points or more.<br /> <br /> Does this mean the point value has to equal 1500 or more, or does it just refer to a 1500 point game? Could you take him in a 1499 point game for example as often people are a few points under 1500 points in 1500 point games due to uneven point costs.<br /> <br /> Can the special character's point cost count towards the point? Grimaldus is about 200 points. Can it be 1500 points counting him, or does it have to be 1500 not counting him?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Many 4th edition books have them, my tau come to mind.<br /> <br /> It refers to a 1500 point game.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(298);'>AFAIK</span> the characters points cost counts towards the total points of your army.  So yes Grimaldus can be in a 1500 point army, he can be in a 1499 point army as long as your playing a 1500 point game and not a 1499 point game.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 23 Aug 2009 21:25:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Similarly you can't avoid bringing an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(32);'>EC</span> to a 750 point game by only spending 749 points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:55:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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