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-Lords-

Warlord Mogot Red Eyes, Weeping Blade, Bands of Power, Shield, Heavy Armor, Warpstone Amulet-194

Grey Seer Irsiz the Horned One, Screaming Bell, Eye of the Horned Rat, Tenebrous Cloak, Warpstone Charm=515

-Heroes-

Chieftain Shagrax the Knife, BSB, Heavy Armor, War Banner-99

Warlock Engineer Zulbash the Brown, Warp Blades, Upgraded Warp-energy Condenser, Supercharged Warp-power Accumulator, 2* Dispell Scrolls-135

Warlock Engineer Horat the Black, Warp Blades, Upgraded Warp-energy Condenser, Supercharged Warp-power Accumulator, Dispell Scroll, Storm Daemon-135

Warlock Engineer Kalbaz the Silent, Warp Blades, Upgraded Warp-energy Condenser, Supercharged Warp-power Accumulator, Brass Orb-135

-Core-

30* Clanrats, Full Command, Ratling Gun=235

30* Clanrats, Standard, Musician, Ratling Gun=225

30* Clanrats, Standard, Musician, Ratling Gun=225

30* Clanrats, Standard, Musician, Ratling Gun=225

30* Clanrats, Standard, Musician, Ratling Gun=225

21*Slaves, Musician=46

21*Slaves, Musician=46

21*Slaves, Musician=46

21*Slaves, Musician=46

-Special-

6*Warplock Jezzails=120

6*Warplock Jezzails=120

6*Warplock Jezzails=120

-Rare-

Warp-lightning Cannon=100


Total=2992 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/928324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/928324.page GMT
The brass orb, I pretty much feel its useless. I've never had the luck to be effective with it unfortunately. I'd much prefer a death globe and scroll.

I go 25 clanrats, i don't think its much different than 30, cuts the cost a bit. Also with all the crap with regen at that point value, have 1-2 warpfire throwers is nice.

At 2999 I ran the identical grey seer set up. My atypical warlord for 2250 is: weeping blade, heavy armor, enchanted shield, warpstone amulet. I then run 3 engineers and play the warlord bump to keep ld 10 everywhere.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/928837.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/928837.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/929357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/929357.page GMT "hey, where did my slann go"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/929508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/929508.page GMT The Grey Seer+2 engineers was more than enough for magic at the point value.
Skaven need a BSB, they run to easily, the BSB keeps the army in check.
The Storm Vermin unit, while a point skin, was excellent at the point value, including the BSB, it has a beginning res of +8... it broke most units it fought by using hw/sh 3+ save in combat.
2 Ratling guns was more than enough, the night runners we invaluable vs all the fast cav I fought, your army has not answer for fast cav minus magic.
Weapon teams are 1 wound, and do not benefit from the negative modifer to shooting, at that point value EVERY army has shooting to pinge them dead.
3x6 jezzails: to easy to render ineffective.

Grey Seer, lv 4, 4 stones, screaming bell, tenerous cloak, eye
Engineer: Handweapon, Condenser, Accumulater, Warp Blades, Storm Demon, Warpstone Charm
Engineer: Handweapon, Condenser, Accumulater, Warp Blades, Scroll, Scroll
Chieftain: heavy armor, bsb, +addl 1 if outnumbers, leads from back

Stormvermin x24: HW, HA, Sh, Hbrds, Command Warbanner
Clan Rats x24: Handweapon, Light Armor, Shield, Command
Clan Rats x24: Handweapon, Light Armor, Shield, Command
Clan Rats x24: Handweapon, Light Armor, Shield, Command, Ratling Gun
Clan Rats x24: Handweapon, Light Armor, Shield, Command, Ratling Gun
Slaves x20, musician
Slaves x20, musician
Slaves x20, musician
Slaves x20, musician
Nightrunners x5, stars
Nightrunners x5, stars
Globadiers x2
Globadiers x2
Globadiers x2
Globadiers x2

Jezzails x9
Jezzails x9
Gutter Runners x5, poisen, tunnel
Gutter Runners x5, poisen, tunnel

Warplightning Cannon
Giant
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930842.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930842.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930888.page GMT What is your plan if a chaos chariot charges the screaming bell? It cannot declare a flee response due to being immune to psychology?

What is your play for flying rank breakers? IE those that charge the screaming bell IE blood thirsters etc? A ratling gun or 2 if it shoots into combat is then randomizing into: Your unit, then the screaming bell.

Your ratling guns cannot draw LOS to the back of your units to shoot into combat. They must be able to see their intended target to declare shooting. This is clear by the skaven book and the Lines of sight rules for shooting.

The Warp Charm is great on the engineer with the storm demon because you can do everything from preventing it from burning out, to not hitting your own engineer. You can just rotate the charm to the engineer and the scroll to the grey seer.

You are 8 points under, knock a clan rat off each unit, that's 33 pts. Take a giant rat dart unit IE deployed in a straight line. Use it to flank opponent and deny them rank bonus. It can at max bsb 3 models, most likely 2. You'll have 3 points left, add 1 slave using 2999/3000. Skaven are a great army for plugging in extra models to make sure you used every last point. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/930922.page GMT
Scenario B)- Flyers, especially large wreacker ones, are big targets to be shoot/ magiced down immediatly. Yes it does random-ize, but my Bell shouldn't be in combat. I know I gotta draw line of sight to the unit i want o fire at. I figure the weapons teams will only be behind the rats for a turn or two, then pop out and shoot. It's a one use only and I would much rather it be on the Seer to prevent his miscasts.

Four Slaves or another clanrat, both seam better then dropping the units down for a rat orge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/931285.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/931285.page GMT str 7 and negates rank bonus for minimum points plus they are "throw away deployments."

I always have the 3x2 globadiers for that, so basically you see a quarter of your opponents army before you commit to your own deployment. That alone has probably won me many games at the GT and Gamesday level with skaven. Plus globadiers are golden vs steam tanks and greater demons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933103.page GMT
While that may be I don't thik I could aford a bunch before 'Ard Boyz.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933128.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933179.page GMT bt 2-3 months till the new book comes out so we'll see.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253753/933221.page GMT