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1000 Pts - Space Marines Roster

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad
5 Sternguard Veteran Squad (Bolt Pistol x5; Bolter x1; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Combi-Flamer x2; Heavy Flamer x2; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron
1 Land Speeder Squadron (Heavy Flamer x1; Assault Cannon x1)



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1000 Pts - Space Marines Roster

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad
5 Sternguard Veteran Squad @ 240 pts (Bolt Pistol x5; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Combi-Flamer x1; Combi-Meltagun x3; Heavy Flamer x1; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron
1 Land Speeder Squadron (Heavy Flamer x1; Multi-Melta x1)

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10x Sternguard, 3x combi-flamer, 2x combi-melta, Rhino:[310]

But it would work well as it is.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/929275.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/929275.page GMT Re:1000 point Vulkan template list
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Green Blow Fly wrote:I am thinking about switching out a few of the templates for meltas... how about this?

1000 Pts - Space Marines Roster

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Troops: Tactical Squad
9 Tactical Squad (Bolt Pistol x9; Bolter x8; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Combi-Flamer; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad
5 Sternguard Veteran Squad @ 240 pts (Bolt Pistol x5; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Combi-Flamer x1; Combi-Meltagun x3; Heavy Flamer x1; Rhino)
1 Sergeant (Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Storm Bolter)

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron
1 Land Speeder Squadron (Heavy Flamer x1; Multi-Melta x1)

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The main problem with this list is your relying on your SternGuard to do the anti-tank duty to much,asoon as them SternGuard die your pretty much anti-tank weak,if you vs mech type lists (which are awfully common these days) you'll really struggle,my suggestion is to possibly give your sergs combi-meltas,this will help you when you really need it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933503.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933503.page GMT Re:1000 point Vulkan template list tac squads get to take Missle Launchers for free like they get flamers? Granted its just 2 missle launchers but thats two more anti-tank shots you wouldn't normally get with this current list.

Just a thought.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933549.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933549.page GMT Re:1000 point Vulkan template list
Otherwise field a drop-pod multi-melta dred to act as your main-stay anti-tank defence. Krak grenades & powerfists can deal with the weaker threats. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933573.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/933573.page GMT 1000 point Vulkan template list
Have you considered having a second army that complements Vulkan? Such as Imperial Guard or SoB with flamers all over the place? I also kind of feel like your Sternguard is kind of an 'eggs-in-one-basket' thing at this point level. Not because of the points they themselves take up, but because of them being your actual only real threatening unit. I think you would do much better with a core along these lines:

Vulkan 190

Tac Squad (Flamer, MM, Rhino) 205
Tac Squad (Flamer, MM, Rhino) 205

3x HF/MM Landspeeders 210

Then, 190 points are left over for something goofier. like a five-man sternguard in a drop pod or razorback, which Vulkan joining them. This is all off the top of my head, but I think you want at least two landspeeders in there, and you are wasting a ton of points on tactical combi weapons and fists.

Sternguard should have all combi-meltas. Their ammunition and profiles are plenty for dealing with junky horde units, you want to use them more like a scalpel to take apart the meanest unit on the table (with Vulkan along for the ride, you will).
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I would get some ML's in there,or keep the tact squads and give your sargs comi-melta's to help combat the problem.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/935761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/935761.page GMT 1000 point Vulkan template list Tac squads down to five man and give them a razorback, then with the left over points beef up or add a new sternguard squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/935770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/935770.page GMT Re:1000 point Vulkan template list http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936027.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936027.page GMT Re:1000 point Vulkan template list
Farmer wrote:Like i said before the problem with this list is it replys to much on them Sternguard being close,if your opponants smart he'll focus fire on your Sternguard and then your anti-tank weak and then open to be raped in CC.

I would get some ML's in there,or keep the tact squads and give your sargs comi-melta's to help combat the problem.


Well, I am going to disagree with this assesment, let me explain why: At 1000 points, you really cannot run a focused list with any codex, something has to give to get the points in for your troop choices (unless you go minimums with 5x snipers, for example). On the flip side, your oponent cannot truly 'focus fire' any unit - their attention has to be elsewhere, as mission objectives will punish them for using their entire army for a single task.

At 1000 points or less you run into a unique situation where you can actually run a power unit that can survive. Past that, you either double them up, or bring in other 'cannot be ignored' threats into your list to split fire and focus. You can run a single predator, or vindicator along with your rhino and have little issues with it. If your opponent has brought something to the table that can truly focus fire a unit down before it can do anything, they have severely gimped themselves in another regard. Bring flexible units (tactical squads, landspeeders), and you will be rewarded for your efforts. You will especially do well against a 'glass cannon' approach.

On another note, if you are drop podding a dreadnought in, I really don't think you need to spend those points on ironclad armour. In my mind it seems more built for footslogging across the table. A normal dreadnought with a multi-melta arm and a SB or HF under the combat weapon drop podded is scary to every unit in the game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936072.page GMT 1000 point Vulkan template list
Lord-Loss wrote:Could take the Tac squads down to five man and give them a razorback, then with the left over points beef up or add a new sternguard squad.


I never play residual units.

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Vulkan

Ironclad w/hf, drop pod

10 tac squad, flamer, mm, rhino
10 tac squad, sgt w/ combi melta, flamer, mm, rhino

3 x land speeders, 3 x mm, 3 x hf

Combat squad the second tac squad, sit the mm group in cover on a rear objective and stick vulkan with the others in the rhino.
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Maybe a basic captain or master of the forge would work a bit better, and you also would not have to constrain yourself to the limit of having to find a transportation method for him (you don't want Vulkan walking, you want him alive and in combat).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/936711.page GMT 1000 point Vulkan template list
Otherwise, I think I like Inigo Montoya's list the best, but I wouldn't bother with combi-weapons on sergeants, and I think you would still be able to squeeze a 5 man sternguard unit in there. For example:

Vulkan

2x 10 Man Marines with melta/multi-melta (or flamer, whatever) in Rhino

5 Man sternguard inna pod

Dread with MM or Ironclad in pod

1 or 2 land speeders.

I think you could fit that all in, and it gives you alot of tools and makes the most use out of Vulkan's ability.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/937370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253780/937370.page GMT