<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Starting Count's?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Starting Count's? LGS. Should I get it and a Lord.
Sorta like how I started with marine's?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/931163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/931163.page GMT Starting Count's?
Just don't do summon spam when playing.

The only time I've enjoyed playing against the new VCs is when my opponent deliberatly goes out of his way to use other spells/roll more dice.

You need characters early on to get the army to work. The batallion box and 2 characters will work a treat for the start of your army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/931525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/931525.page GMT Starting Count's? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932605.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932605.page GMT Starting Count's?
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Yes.

Just don't do summon spam when playing.

The only time I've enjoyed playing against the new VCs is when my opponent deliberatly goes out of his way to use other spells/roll more dice.

You need characters early on to get the army to work. The batallion box and 2 characters will work a treat for the start of your army.

Is summon spam that good in the new book? I haven't played fantasy since 6th ed, and summoning zombies was considered powerful mostly for dumb summon behind the enemy/conga line tricks. Is the new version better?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932613.page GMT Starting Count's? VC can know all spells and have +1 to summon cast, so a level 3 can try and raise to a unit 5 times on 3+ by rolling a dice at a time. Then the other magic users join in and it ends up being a game of watching the VC player roll dice.

Very frustrating for their opponent.

Back OT.

I'd go with 2 vamps to start with, the necromancers have been made to deliberatly suck so that you will take vamps.
Also the corpsecart adds to the magic phase and buffs multiple units for a cheap cost points wise.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/932749.page GMT Starting Count's? VC player to buy the Battalion, simply because most of the time, you will only need 2 of the 3 Core choices (Zombies and then either Ghouls or Skeletons). Most players choose to go with either Ghouls or Skeletons as their Core choices (and then Zombies to be raised with the Raise Dead spell). This is mostly due to the specific Vampire Bloodline Powers that are needed to be able to raise Ghouls / Skeletons beyond starting size (inefficient to take both on them on every Vampire).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/933461.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/933461.page GMT Re:Starting Count's? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/933536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/933536.page GMT Starting Count's? lot of them. Skeletons, especially, are a dime a dozen. Whatever core you decide to focus on you'll need a minimum of 60 (3 units of 20). I'd try to get enough so that you could potentially run 40 per unit.

Corpse carts are good enough that I almost always take one. For the price of a vampire you can mount a necro on one and guarantee that you have Vanhel's on at least one character. Also, if you mount a necro on your corpse cart you can put it in a unit. Wight Kings are also awesome. For 75 points you get a 5 str 5 toughness character with 3 wounds, 3 attacks and killing blow. He's a combat monster. Get a couple of vamps to round out your characters and you'll have a nice, balanced set of heroes.

Get some grave guard or some black knights and a vhargulf and you'll have a good start.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/935704.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/935704.page GMT Re:Starting Count's? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/935746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/253877/935746.page GMT