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				<description><![CDATA[ Got 150 points to spare and your space marine army and aren't afraid of getting a little cheesy? Give this a try.<br /> <br /> Take a Master of the forge put him on a bike and give him a conversion beam. Oh? is this a survivable <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>bs</span> 5 blast rail gun over 42 inch range max 72!!! <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 10 ap1. It isn't that bad over 18" range ether str8 ap4. Use the bike to retreat and move as needed to try to get the maximum range out of it. Try to be close to sqauds to so you cant be shot at. Oblitorators? 2+ 2+ Dead. Land Radier 4+ to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> it. Oh deamon prince? 1 shotted. Basicly anything you want to shoot at this is the highest yeilding range weapon you can feild. Oh and if one of your vehicals goes imobile you can try and fix it to. But you should probably keep shooting. On a good day this puppy can take out 500 points easy - the definition of cheese. Oh and he bolsters defence.<br /> <br /> This should bring the enemy close to you. If you want to be really cheesy take 2 of them. Getting heavy support out <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> is always nice.<br /> Anytime you take him you can take 6 dreds as well. what army can handle 6 deep strike dreds right where you want them? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. Ive never tried the dreds. But the Master of the forge is a keeper.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:04:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RinesofGlory]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Try to be close to sqauds to so you cant be shot at.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Unless you actually join a squad, no rule prevents you from shooting the MoF unless he is completely out of sight.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:23:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ willydstyle]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He might be on a bike but its not hard to 1 shot him. No invulnerable save makes him a little fragile. Also getting that target to be outside of 4 feet isn't always an easy task.<br /> <br /> The other problem is that if you want to make use of that bike there really isn't a good unit to walk around with him to act as extra wounds, Maybe some basic bikes or a small assault squad. Doesn't really seem like cheese to me though.<br /> <br /> Cheers<br /> ~Volkan<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:34:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Volkan]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Forge Master Ownage</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You can't shoot independent characters within 6 inches of a squad unless you are within 12 inches of it. Pretty sure thats still a rule. If I'm wrong, you could always just put him with a squad of attack bikes or just 1 - they have 2 wounds only 40 points. Or just put him in a marine squad without the bike...even cheaper but youd lose a lot of mobility.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Aug 2009 22:43:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RinesofGlory]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>RinesofGlory wrote:</cite>Oblitorators? 2+ 2+ Dead. Land Radier 4+ to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span> it. Oh deamon prince? 1 shotted.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oblit gets a 5+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(162);'>INV</span> or a 4+ cover save most of the time.  Demon Prince has Eternal Warrior and doesn't suffer instant death.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>RinesofGlory wrote:</cite>You can't shoot independent characters within 6 inches of a squad unless you are within 12 inches of it. Pretty sure thats still a rule. If I'm wrong, you could always just put him with a squad of attack bikes or just 1 - they have 2 wounds only 40 points. Or just put him in a marine squad without the bike...even cheaper but youd lose a lot of mobility.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That was a 4th ed rule.  Putting him with a squad means he has to shoot at what the squad does or vice versa.<br /> <br /> Nice try, but not really the "ownage" that you're looking for.  Take Vulkan instead.<br /> <br /> As Xzbit would say, Vulkan puts meltas on your meltas, so you can burn while you burn!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:05:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ whitedragon]]></author>
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