http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 40k and chose to start with the necron army. here's what i've come up with so far. i've play tested something similar, but am looking for any suggestions for improvement, especially in the area of CC. would Flayed Ones be a wise choice?

1xNecron Lord - 200 pts
[Res Orb + VOD]

1xNecron Lord - 200 pts
[Res Orb + VOD]

19xWarriors - 342 pts

19xWarriors - 342 pts

5xDestroyers - 250 pts

3xHeavy Destroyers - 195 pts

1xMonolith - 235 pts

1xMonolith - 235 pts

Total pts = 1999
Phase Out = 12
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/934991.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/934991.page GMT CC, which is what I assume you're using it for. That's quite a bit of stuff I've just suggested and I'd write out a list but I don't have the codex. So I hope you can make since of what I've said. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935021.page GMT In terms of close combat I think highly of scarabs - just don't expect miracles. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935108.page GMT cc additions try Flayed ones and use them to outflank. Also there is no better cc unit in the 'cron force than one of the C'Tan. Either one is good, personally I prefer the Nightbringer but Deceiver is just as good and saves you 60 points. Scarabs are also highly recomended as good disruption units and they're cheap. I would also add 2 warriors to your force and split them into four squads of 10.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935128.page GMT
i feel a bit foolish for putting 2 VODs in the army list because i knew there is only one allowed. my bad. also, i think i should make it clear that i had planned to use the VOD as a means to escape/avoid CC since the warriors are practically useless in that regard. my plan was to have an army that can stay away from CC and destroy the enemy from a distance. however, i think it is almost necessary to have at least one unit of CC because all shooty may not win me the game. i think i should also note that i will be playing against chaos space marines, eldar, and 'nids primarily.

i will post a new list based on the advice given to me soon.


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so the new list is as such:

HQ - 500 pts

1xNecron Lord - 200 pts
[res orb + VOD]

1xThe Deceiver - 300 pts

Elites - 168 pts

8xFlayed Ones - 168 pts
[Disruption Fields]

Fast Attack - 420 pts

3xDestroyer - 150 pts

3xDestroyer - 150 pts

10xScarab Swarms - 120 pts

Troops - 432 pts

12xWarriors - 216 pts

12xWarriors - 216 pts

Heavy Support - 470 pts

1xMonolith - 235 pts

1xMonolith - 235 pts

Point Total = 2000
Phase Out = 9


now the question is would it be better to run the lord with the flayed ones and let the monoliths take care of the troops, or to run him with a squad of troops? i've also thought of giving him a destroyer body instead of the VOD and running him near the destroyers. what do you think?
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/935698.page GMT cc anyways)

Good news your eldar/nids friend will not be able to kill your monoliths so they are extremely safe, but I would still try to find a way to get a heavy destroyer in, some people dont like them, but they are the only ap2 gun we have (monoliths should be using their portals) or I would add another 6 warriors to get a total of 3 squads of 10.

Drop VOD, 2 scarabs, disruption fields on flayed -108
add six warriors+108
=2000

my 2 cents]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936666.page GMT when you lose your first Lord + squad due to deep strike mishap you will never use the VoD again, and regret using it in the first place.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936694.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936694.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/936751.page GMT
Also another option for cc is 2 or 3 squads of 3 Wraiths + Destroyer lord w/ warscythe res orb and phase shifter. You have a lot of high strength attacks and the lord ignores all saves and can kill any tank except other monoliths. It is a highly mobile force that takes some practice to use correctly, but when you do they are a terror on the field. They work best against squads like banshees who rely on their power weapons to kill things instead of high number of attacks. Best of all they are necrons too and hard to kill ones at that so they count towards phase out. Biggest problem and the reason I dont like to use them is if you take them then you cant use destroyers. Another small point is that if the metagame in your group is more melta then they do very well, they get a 3++ save and a 4+wbb save (unless your over six inches away from the res orb) and can charge 18inches over any terrain]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937247.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937464.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937464.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937559.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937559.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937574.page GMT SA. An army build of 3 ten man squads is better IMO, than odd ball numbers of warriors. I only took a few extra warriors in past games because I had extra points left over and not enough extra bases of Scarabs to use them with. I have since remedied my short supply of scarabs. Also, I will still argue that Warriors are a great troops choice and only suffer from low initiative.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937645.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/937645.page GMT OP can decide what he likes most.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938373.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938373.page GMT CC anyways, as they are average at best. Their strength is sitting in cover and firing. Once most opposing units are destroyed you advance them to objectives. Any that are needed for objectives further on the battlefield should be transported via Monolith. The only units warriors aren't a match for in range are Tau Firewarriors and weapons that the Warriors aren't going to want to get closer to anyway. Necrons have plenty of faster units if needed. Warriors work fine. Do you want an iron coffin for your troops like Space Marines have?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938851.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938851.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/938870.page GMT CC as well as ranged combat might be too difficult to do, so what if i just try get a good ranged army together? like this, for example:

HQ- 170 pts

1xNecron Lord - 170 pts
[res orb + destroyer body]

Fast Attack - 608 pts

5xDestroyer - 250 pts

5xDestroyer - 250 pts

9xScarab Swarms - 108 pts

Troops - 594 pts

11xWarriors - 198 pts

11xWarriors - 198 pts

11xWarriors - 198 pts

Heavy Support - 625 pts

1xMonolith - 235 pts

3xHeavy Destroyers - 195 pts

3xHeavy Destroyers - 195 pts

Point Total = 1997
Phase Out = 12

i know that many of you suggested 36 - 40 troops, but is 33 really going to make that big of a difference? i know it would be better to have 4 units, but i also think that it is better to have 2 units of destroyers and heavy Ds incase one unit is wiped out. also, i know that 6 heavy Ds might look like a lot, but my friends seem to think you either go big or go home so i'll be needing them for anti-tank/monstrous creature. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/940996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/940996.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941045.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941126.page GMT And heavy destroyers are a life saver, especially when your friends learn that 2+ armor saves pretty much wreck necrons. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941369.page GMT Inv. save. Also you may want to find room for a squad of Immortals, they are wicked T5 elites with assault 2 guns.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941446.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941446.page GMT Also 33 troops i think is better than more. Theoretically i would even suggest getting rid of the 3 extras, although i have no idea what to spend the points on. I guess if it was my list my only other tweak would be to remove the scarabs, res orb and 3 warriors and add 4 destroyers. I guess you could add a disruption field on the lord too, just because you have 5 points left over.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941900.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941900.page GMT IMO. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941935.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941935.page GMT WBB roll. i haven't got to play this list yet, so we'll see what happens when i do and see what's better. i was also considering running the 3rd squad of warriors in reserve, but that ties up the portal and particle whip until i can bring them through. any suggestions on that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941939.page GMT
Edit: Don't forget that by not attaching the Lord to a squad, it can be picked off in 5th edition.(More advisable with the Phase shifter)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941987.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/941987.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/942348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254097/942348.page GMT