<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Do flamers require LOS?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Do flamers require LOS? LOS to the target in which it is firing?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939080.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939080.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939087.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? LoS, otherwise he cannot Target the unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939093.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939093.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939101.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939101.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? LOS. How else do you prevent a wraithlord from torching your precious grots?

[/lulz]]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939798.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/939798.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS? d6 hits on the unit (that's out of LOS).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941119.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS? pg 16 of the BRB). How does this work for a squad of units with flamers? Say one figure in the squad can see the targeted unit, but no others can. The scenario in our last game was that my figures were behind a ruined building and only 2 burnas had LOS on my Guardsman. We played it that he could fire all of his templates through the building as this is how normal shooting worked and we could not find anything in the book to suggest any different.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941300.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941300.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS?
s2ua7 wrote:I understand shooting and that if one figure can see, they all can fire
No, each individual model must be able to see to fire, however only one model in the target unit has to be in LOS and any model can then be taken as a casualty.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941352.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/941352.page GMT Do flamers require LOS?
ajfirecracker wrote:How else do you prevent a wraithlord from torching your precious grots?


Point out that the Wraithlord model has no eyes... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942079.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942079.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS? LOS.
In other words, that was my point. It's okay though, we can all laugh at the silly eldar and their blind models.

I've seen mention somewhere (Gwar?) that only IG/humans without eye coverings should be able to fire due to LOS, but I think the argument is faulty. Nowhere does it say that humans still have eyes in the 41st millenium. It could, for example, be standard practice to replace eyes with loose bionic equivalents.

Shy of some sort of eye wargear, either everything should be able to fire (well, maybe wraithlord and wraithguard still can't, given the lack of anything there) or nothing should.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942199.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942199.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS?
ajfirecracker wrote:I've seen mention somewhere (Gwar?) that only IG/humans without eye coverings should be able to fire due to LOS, but I think the argument is faulty.
Last I checked, only Homo sapiens sapiens have "Eyes". Other races have their Xenos Equivalents, but they are not eyes. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942207.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942213.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942213.page GMT Do flamers require LOS?
ajfirecracker wrote:Last I checked, nowhere in any rulebook does it state that humans have eyes at all. Also, last I checked, they're plastic models, who cannot have biological eyes regardless of race.
Therefore nothing can fire. Congrats!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942216.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942216.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? SM checking line of sight, so a crafty SM player might argue that "eyes" is used to mean "SM head" as the example indicates.

This would, of course, give SM players an unfair advantage (well, against most armies).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/942223.page GMT Do flamers require LOS? LoS, YMDC would be even more heated.

(that's two birds)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943022.page GMT Do flamers require LOS?
If you can see one model in the squad (say one model in a squad poking out of a tall and relatively intact ruin) could you draw line of sight to that one model, and then proceed to vaporize the other models in the squad?

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Lordhat wrote:
s2ua7 wrote:I understand shooting and that if one figure can see, they all can fire
No, each individual model must be able to see to fire, however only one model in the target unit has to be in LOS and any model can then be taken as a casualty.


Wow, thats my bad, we (my group) misread the rulebook there. I think that I read the part about drawing line of sight from one figure and then failed to read further on. Thank you for pointing that out Lordhat]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943072.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943072.page GMT Do flamers require LOS?
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Shrike78 wrote:okay, I have a, perhaps stupid, question:

If you can see one model in the squad (say one model in a squad poking out of a tall and relatively intact ruin) could you draw line of sight to that one model, and then proceed to vaporize the other models in the squad?

Yes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943190.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943190.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS?
Gwar! wrote:
ajfirecracker wrote:I've seen mention somewhere (Gwar?) that only IG/humans without eye coverings should be able to fire due to LOS, but I think the argument is faulty.
Last I checked, only Homo sapiens sapiens have "Eyes". Other races have their Xenos Equivalents, but they are not eyes.


I am shocked and dismayed at this inaccuracy, sir! Many, many species other than homo sapiens have “eyes”. And the majority of people on earth use other words than “eyes” to describe the ocular organs of homo sapiens. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943722.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943722.page GMT Re:Do flamers require LOS?
Mannahnin wrote:I am shocked and dismayed at this inaccuracy, sir! Many, many species other than homo sapiens have “eyes”. And the majority of people on earth use other words than “eyes” to describe the ocular organs of homo sapiens.
They use a different word to mean Eyes. Eldar no more have Eyes than they have Human Livers. They Have a Xenos Equivalent, but they do not have "Eyes".]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254336/943735.page GMT Do flamers require LOS?
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that the word "eyes" refers only to the eyes of homo sapiens, of which notion any biologist or anatomist will rapidly disabuse you.

Also, the majority of homo sapiens currently extant upon our planet use words other than "eyes" in reference to their own seeing apparatus. So sticking upon that terminology as a criteria of exclusion is clearly silly.

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