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HQ: 130
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Daemon Prince
-Wings

TROOPS: 1020
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CSM Squad– 255pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Chaos Glory
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

CSM Squad– 255pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Chaos Glory
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

CSM Squad– 255pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Chaos Glory
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

CSM Squad– 255pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Chaos Glory
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

HEAVY SUPPORT (600)
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Defiler
2x 3 Obliterators


I was thinking of trying to get IoK on all the CSM's to make them more scary in close combat but unsure where to get the extra points from, and a MoN on the DP for more toughness...

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You can drop a CSM squad, three is enough. Get another DP with the points or some termies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944721.page GMT
What are you thoughts on IoK CSM's ? I like the idea of them alot]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944734.page GMT DP needs some powers. Lash is amazing and fun to play and even more fun when it messed with your opponents plans. Your CMS squads seem equipped with what they need...

If i were you i would rethink your defilers. Their amazing models and i love how they look but their not nearly as amazing to play. Give them a try but dont expect much from them...i would drop the defilers and look at a Vindi or another squad of Oblits.

If 3 squads are enough...drop the fourth squad and get another DP with wings and Lash and have a real fun time =)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944748.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944748.page GMT MoN DP is usually used with warptime and MoK on CSM works just as well if not better than berzerkers IMO.


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Sorry i meant IoK.


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Ok one last thing usually you use 1 squad for every 500 pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944749.page GMT CSM's

HQ: 155
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Daemon Prince
-Wings
-Lash
-MoS

ELITES: ????

TROOPS: 825
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CSM Squad– 275pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Khorne
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

CSM Squad– 275pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Khorne
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino

CSM Squad– 275pts
- 10 Marines
- 2 Melta guns
- 1 Icon of Khorne
- 1 Aspiring Champion
- Power fist
-Rhino


HEAVY SUPPORT (600)
Defiler
2x 3 Obliterators

Thats 170 points left to spend, I was orginally not so keen on Lash prince(s) due to everyone screaming cheese but I like the alot more than normal Chaos HQ. I guess I could always look to switch to a more melee orienated DP
Terminators, not sure about them however they seem rather average.
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Duel Lash...do it i dare you =)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944863.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944863.page GMT
ELITES: (155)
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4 Terminators
3 Combi-Melta
Heavy Flamer + Chainfist

+15 pts spare


Heh Dual lash would be interesting, I kinda like a DP + MoN + WT + Wings buts its 175 pts :(]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/944881.page GMT

I'd probably drop the Defiler as well, but that is personal preference. People have great success with them, but I don't like the model and I prefer to spend the points elsewhere.

For units of Termies, I'm a huge fan of 3 man units with 3x combimeltas. I also like 3 man units with a heavy flamer and 2x combiflamers. They're suicide units in both cases, but they each have a great chance of destroying whatever they land by.

why the icons of Khorne? I think the Chaos Glory Icon will be much beter for you since it helps to counter your troops' lack of the fearless special rule.

I'm not sure if you can really wiggle in the points for it but if you can fit a Land Raider into the list it would be a pretty solid choice. They're damned hard to kill in 5th edition. You'll basically gain a moving fortress that can score with a unit of troops sitting in it. I'm thinking it would look something like:

Lash Prince
Lash Sorceror
2x CSM: 2x Melta, IoCG, PF Rhino
1x CSM: 2x Melta, IoCG, PF
2x 3x Oblits
1x Land Raider: EA/DP (your preference/as points allow, but it is important for it to have at least one of them so it can stay mobile when it starts taking glancing hits)

I've not run the points so I'm not really sure if it works out or not, but it should be close (truth be told it looks similar to the list I'm currently playing to good success, I'm running cult troops instead of generic CSMs though).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945152.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945152.page GMT
Originally I was looking at running Berzerkers.

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Bat-rep later?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945295.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945295.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945313.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945313.page GMT
Also, your normal CSMs are pretty solid in CC without spending the points on the Icon since they have BP/CCW to fight with (for the +1 attack from pistol/ccw).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945321.page GMT IoCG, or for 20 points extra 10 additional attacks, I like the idea but I'm not sure.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945332.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945332.page GMT CSM probly do need the IoCG. Otherwise they can fall back relatively easy.

Did you ever think of running Fabius Bile as an HQ? I'm doing it for an upcoming Apoc game and so all of my 35 CSM (there are other people on my team too dont worry!) will have S5 and Fearless. This would make the IoCG pointless, make your troops closer to Zerkers, and allow you to still have bolters and special weapons. All for only 3 pts a model totalling less than zerkers. Maybe you should give it a try? Even proxy Bile a couple of times (I am) cos the Enhanced CSM dont need any different models just to try it.

Also greetings from Christchurch NZ! Good to see more Kiwis around! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945484.page GMT
Good idea, I'll look into it]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945621.page GMT CSM's ur Champ's should provide additional leadership, whilst an icon of slaanesh will let them rhino rush and strike before most counter-charges... and save you 30pts... and provide coherency with your sole slaanesh DP, however tbh i do have a preference towards slaanesh myself (i collect emperors children)

However if you like the Khorne CSM's then stick with them, you could potentially drop a CSM squad, replacing them with zerkers in a land raider... yummy!

However people could well scream if your sole slaanesh model is a lash DP...

good luck with the army tho, looks good!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945681.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/254722/945681.page GMT