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				<title>1750 Nurgle CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 350<br /> Daemon Prince<br /> -Wings<br /> -Warptime<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> Daemon Prince<br /> -Wings<br /> -Warptime<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span><br /> <br /> TROOPS: 793<br /> Plague Marine Squad:<br /> 7 Plague marines:<br /> 2 Melta Guns:<br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion:<br /> Powerfist:<br /> Rhino:<br /> <br /> Plague Marine Squad:<br /> 7 Plague marines:<br /> 2 Melta Guns:<br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion:<br /> Powerfist:<br /> Rhino:<br /> <br /> Plague Marine Squad:<br /> 7 Plague marines:<br /> 2 Plasma Guns:<br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion:<br /> Powerfist:<br /> Rhino:<br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT: 600<br /> Defiler<br /> 2x 3 Obliterators<br /> <br /> OR<br /> <br /> 2x 3 Obliterators<br /> 1 x 2 Obliterators<br /> <br /> 7pts spare ..<br /> <br /> Plan is to use the defiler if I am going to be playing a horde army, I know that they tend to work better in pairs but Obliterators just seem too good. I know plague marines are solid but theres only 21 of them!! Seems like not enough guys!<br /> Could also rotate in a flamer squad if needed]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ grimz]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 Nurgle CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your list looks fine. <br /> <br /> Run oblits rather than defilers. 2 BS4 S7 small blasts is better than 1 BS3 big one for killing infantry. More templates will give you more hits, which will kill more models.<br /> <br /> 21 plague marines is good. Yiur enemy have to kill the rhinos before they can shoot at them anyway. Just make sure you focus your fire on the things that threaten them, like russes and fire prisms, early on so that there is only small arms left to deal with your plague marines.<br /> <br /> I wouldnt bother bringing in flamers. 8 small templates is usually enough for horde armies, and if it isnt you are more mobile in rhinos anyway, so you can fight on your terms.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:22:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Regwon]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I agree with Regwon.  One defiler in an army with no other vehicles except for Rhinos will get shot up fast- you are better off with more obliterators.  If you are bringing defilers, bring a bunch of them.<br /> <br /> I agree on not needing flamers too.  You will be more mobile than horde armies and your high survivability in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(58);'>HTH</span> with hordes will take care of things.  Tank shocks and winning <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> with your plague marines will force a lot of morale checks.  <br /> <br /> Personally, I would drop the powerfist champ off the plasma squad, drop one obliterator, and pick up a unit of termicide to help your anti-tank and draw fire away from your rhinos and princes early on.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Very good list overall though.  Close to what I run, though I usually try to incorporate a 4th squad of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span>, but I play 1850.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:17:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ hancock.tom]]></author>
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				<title>1750 Nurgle CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Well, I'd drop the Champions' power fists, since this army should be able to keep the enemy at arm's length. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> This would save a lot points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:30:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Plasma is crap, run flamer melta.  Warptime is 50 pts in this army that isnt going to make or break anything.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:58:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PanamaG]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Daemon Princes look ok. <br /> <br /> Plague marines look ok, but I prefer 2 melta squads and 1 flamer squad.<br /> Though plagues don't 'need' it vs. hordes, it makes it easier, as I really don't want to spend that much time vs. a 30 slugga boys.<br /> <br /> I like the Defiler/6 oblits.  It diversifies the list, adds a bit armor saturation (think about it in a different point of view, the defiler might explodes, but they drew at least some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 weapon away from the rhinos which is good, or the other way around), and an additional combat monster.<br /> Oblits are great, but it’s just not uber past 6 if lash is not involved. <br /> <br /> One can drop some fists, but what would you get?  There's not much wiggle room.<br /> <br /> @PanamaG:<br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Plasma is crap</div></blockquote><br /> Well... it depends on how one wants to use the squad.<br /> Plasma is 100% superior to all the other special weapons in reaching out and touching something at &gt; 12&quot;...<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Warptime is 50 pts in this army that isnt going to make or break anything.</div></blockquote><br /> I don't know what sort of rolling you do to warrent your dislike of warp time, but I've seen it do amazingly well.  You get reliable kills...and with the chaos list, reliablility is an important factor.  And it depends on what the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> does with his princes, if they are his counter attack/ main <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> powerhouses, then <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(772);'>WT</span> fits the bill.<br /> <br /> My 7 Cents.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:56:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sanctjud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ List is fine as is.<br /> Plasma is far more handy than a flamer when you need it (you have plenty of anti horde as is) and kills terminators dead.  I would drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>pf</span> from the plasma champ, though.  Add a &lt;gasp&gt; havoc launcher to that rhino instead.  <br /> <br /> All in all, that list is at the playtest level now - it won't get much better on paper.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 17:04:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Inigo Montoya]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cheers guys, since the plasma squad is meant to sit back on objectives dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span> sounds like a good idea.<br /> <br /> Ok here's a slightly reworked list... what would you do with 92 points spare.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 350<br /> Daemon Prince <br /> -Wings <br /> -Warptime <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> <br /> <br /> Daemon Prince <br /> -Wings <br /> -Warptime <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> <br /> <br /> ELITES: 105<br /> 3 Terminators <br /> 3 Combi-Melta <br /> <br /> <br /> TROOPS: 753<br /> Plague Marine Squad:<br /> 7 Plague marines: <br /> 2 Melta Guns: <br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion: <br /> Powerfist: <br /> Rhino: <br /> <br /> Plague Marine Squad: <br /> 7 Plague marines: <br /> 2 Melta Guns: <br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion: <br /> Powerfist: <br /> Rhino: <br /> <br /> Plague Marine Squad: <br /> 7 Plague marines: <br /> 2 Plasma Guns: <br /> 1 Plague Champion Champion: <br /> Rhino: <br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT: 450<br /> 2x 3 Obliterators <br /> <br /> Extra oblit? Plasma pistol for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span> squad? Dreadnaught?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Sep 2009 22:52:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ grimz]]></author>
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