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				<description><![CDATA[ Spent the better part of an afternoon seeing how I could make a force to have a great grudge match against Dark Angels Deathwing<br /> <br /> Let me know what you think...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 405<br /> <br /> <br /> Logan Grimnar                                    275<br /> <br /> [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> version of  Marneus Calgar]<br /> close combat monster, army wide enhancer<br /> WolfGuard as Troops<br /> <br /> Rune Priest in Terminator Armour         130<br /> Chooser of the Slain<br /> <i>Murderous Hurricane<br /> Jaws of the World Wolf</i><br /> <br /> TROOPS: 1310<br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack x 5                           230                              <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> Storm Bolters / Power Weapons<br /> +1 Wolf Claw<br /> +1 Storm Shield<br /> +1 Chainfist<br /> +1 Assault Cannon<br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack x 5                           230                              <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> Storm Bolters / Power Weapons<br /> +1 Wolf Claw<br /> +1 Storm Shield<br /> +1 Chainfist<br /> +1 Cyclone Rocket Pods<br /> <br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack x 10                         430                             <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> Storm Bolters / Power Weapons<br /> +2 Wolf Claw<br /> +1 Storm Shield<br /> +1 Chainfist<br /> +2 Cyclone Rocket Pods<br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack x 10                         430                             <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> Storm Bolters / Power Weapons<br /> +2 Wolf Claw<br /> +1 Storm Shield<br /> +1 Chainfist<br /> +2 Cyclone Rocket Pods<br /> <br /> <br /> Heavy Support: 275<br /> <br /> Landraider Crusader                         275<br /> Extra Armour, Multi-Melta<br /> <br /> <br /> essentially a footslogger Deathwing shooty list with a mobile element to allow Logan and the Runepriest to deal some death for the amount of points spent on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s...<br /> <br /> Logan is a whopping 275 pts, but has some great abilities, such as picking from several different <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(136);'>USR</span>'s to give to his attached squad each turn, and allowing ALL friendlies within 18" to add an extra attack for one turn...combined with the fact that every wolfguard has counter attack, they will always be striking with 3 attacks, even when charged, and 4 attacks when Logan barks out his version of "Waaaaaaagh!!!!'<br /> <br /> The Landraider will be a dedicated transport for one of the 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> squads, whereupon the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s will pile in and give any army a very nasty surprise in Dawn of war...<br /> <br /> Two troops and an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> in a nightfight 1st turn? <br /> <br /> Sure! <br /> <br /> Slaps down a landraider, Acute Senses Wolfguard, Logan and a RunePriest whose "Chooser of the Slain" cyber raven perches on the battlefield limiting enemy infiltration options...<br /> <br /> Wolf claws are superior versions of lightning claws, allowing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> player to elect to either <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(271);'>RR</span> to hit or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(271);'>RR</span> to wound on a case by case basis...<br /> <br /> Rune priest carry staffs to nullify psychic powers instead of Psychic Hoods, no max range on nullify.<br /> <br /> Jaws of the World Wolf is an absolutey amazing power, think the Fury of the Ancients combined with a vortex grenade...<br /> <br /> Murderous Hurricane is a great way to slow down and maim on rushing hordes....<br /> <br /> Army designed to methodically roll up a section of the battlefield, with murderous amount of high rate firepower in overlapping fields that make a mockery of cover saves.<br /> <br /> Cyclones are there to deal with mobile transports and Landraider will make a bee line to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> 2 ordinance.<br /> <br /> Thinking of scrapping some pts to be able to grab a drop pod for other 5 man squad, and equip them with combi meltas for dealing with tanks if needed...<br /> <br /> Lots of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> Demolishers and Executioners are the weakness of this themed army... once I get my own codex I will try to find a solution...<br /> <br /> <br /> ==================================================================================<br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> <br /> <b>here's the revised less fluffy and more optimized list....</b>[i]<br /> <br /> 10 man charlie and delta squads are there to advance and lay down withering fire, not assault vehicles, in this case power fists fit the bill.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>PS</span> "Any Wolfguard model may take melta bombs for 5 pts"<br /> <br /> So a nice mix of close in / assault anti tank in Squad Bravo while still keeping the storm bolter / cyclone fire strong at range in case the squad would be best served slogging up the table and dropping the empty Pod to plug up the opposition's line of advance.<br /> <br /> <br /> Squad Alpha (for assault) is designed to go in the Crusader with Logan and the Rune Priest. They should be hitting something squishy, but Logan can use his Axe as a powerfist in emergencies...Again, squad has lots of medium range shots if it better for them to hang back and followthe shooty <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> mantra....<br /> <br /> BONUS: Runepriest carry RUNIC force weapons that WOUND DAEMONS ON A 2+!!!!<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 385<br /> <br /> <br /> Logan Grimnar 275 <br /> <br /> [<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> version of Marneus Calgar] <br /> close combat monster, army wide enhancer <br /> WolfGuard as Troops <br /> <br /> Rune Priest 110 <br /> Chooser of the Slain <br /> Murderous Hurricane <br /> Jaws of the World Wolf <br /> <br /> TROOPS: 1305<br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack Alpha x 5 215<br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> 4x Storm Bolters /4x Power Weapons <br /> +1 Wolf Claw <br /> +1 Assault Cannon <br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack Bravo x 5 240 <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> 3x Storm Bolters / 3x Power Weapons <br /> +2 Combi Meltas<br /> +1 Melta Bombs<br /> +2 Chainfist <br /> +1 Cyclone Rocket Pods <br /> ________<br /> Drop Pod 4 Bravo, dump it out empty against opponents lacking AP2 tanks<br /> -----------<br /> <br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack Charlie x 10 425<br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> 10x Storm Bolters / 7x Power Weapons <br /> +2 Wolf Claws <br /> +1 Storm Shield <br /> +1 Power Fist<br /> +2 Cyclone Rocket Pods <br /> <br /> Wolf Guard Pack Delta x 10 425 <br /> Terminator Armour, <br /> 10x Storm Bolters / 7x Power Weapons <br /> +2 Wolf Claws <br /> +1 Storm Shield <br /> +1 Power Fist<br /> +2 Cyclone Rocket Pods <br /> <br /> <br /> HEAVY SUPPORT: 275 <br /> <br /> Landraider Crusader 275 <br /> Extra Armour, Multi-Melta<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I'd appreciate any / all comments and critique, especially from the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> vets out there!!!]]></description>
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				<title>Re:NEW Space Wolves Terminator Wolf-Wing 2000 pts</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm intrigued by a list like this, being a former <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> player and a glutton for punishment.<br /> <br /> I'd suggest having your big terminator shooty type squads stripped down of any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> enhanced wargear, as you're going to want to keep them at maximun range and fire their cyclones and ass cans at stuff while minimizing short range small arms return fire.  <br /> <br /> It would be nice to find points for a second land raider, rather than a pod, for your other 5 man squad to bring them up close and personal safely.<br /> <br /> Looks like a fun army to run in friendly games anyway.  I don't see it running wild in a competitive setting.  Might win award for quickest army to assemble/paint from start to finish.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is the first list--31 models?  I should start a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army just because it is going to be cheapish.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>augustus5 wrote:</cite>I'm intrigued by a list like this, being a former <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> player and a glutton for punishment.<br /> <br /> I'd suggest having your big terminator shooty type squads stripped down of any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> enhanced wargear, as you're going to want to keep them at maximun range and fire their cyclones and ass cans at stuff while minimizing short range small arms return fire.  <br /> <br /> It would be nice to find points for a second land raider, rather than a pod, for your other 5 man squad to bring them up close and personal safely.<br /> <br /> Looks like a fun army to run in friendly games anyway.  I don't see it running wild in a competitive setting.  Might win award for quickest army to assemble/paint from start to finish.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> Essentially the 10 man squad are... the power fists are there in case something tough drop pods down next to them. The storm shields take the first AP2 shot that hits. The wolf claws are a VERY cheap upgrade, so I strip those four off my 10 man squads I will only have 4/3 of a space marine in pts to play with.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Low model count will screw you over at times.<br /> <br /> anything that ignores armour will do well though, since a 2+ save is really the strongpoint of your army.<br /> You have a fair few shots, but nothing to worry vehicles to any extent.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok i have been wanting to sink my teeth in to this topic for a time now,<br /> <br /> first i have to say i absolutely love the new space wolf codex. i am not a fan boy that jumps on a new band wagon every time <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>gw</span> releases the a new dex. far from it i have played Deathwing since the beginning of 3rd when you can only field termies dreds and land raiders. that being said iv been a bit of a purist sticking to those rules through the years. around 12 now i think.<br /> <br /> i came in second at my local tourney last sat with my death wing and and it was with those winning i bought the new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> codex. i fell in love with the idea of "Deathwolves" [Theres even a cool banner with that on it in the book <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">] at least that’s what i like to call them. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>Lol</span> or theres always “Logan’s Heroes” <br /> <br /> Now i run them totally shooty as its mec heavy where i live with a lot of eldar. basic list as follows.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>#1 - Logan (275)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>#2 - Rune priest W/ Chooser of the slain and terminator armor (130)<br /> Jaws of the World Wolf <br /> Living Lightning<br /> <br /> Troop#1-4 (225x4 =900)<br /> Termie - Power weapon and Storm Bolter<br /> Termie - Power weapon and Storm Bolter and wolf tail<br /> Termie - Power weapon and Assault Cannon<br /> Termie - Power Fist and Storm Bolter<br /> Termie - Chain Fist and Storm Bolter<br /> <br /> Elite#1-3 (145x3 =435)<br /> Dread w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Las and Missile<br /> <br /> Heavy#1<br /> Crusader w/Multi-Melta (260)<br /> <br /> Gives plenty of anti psycher along with more fire power than my old deathwing list, in addition there NOT fearless which is good thing because it can allow me to get out of a combat i really don’t have a chance of winning pore mass fire power in to that unit and then re charge and hope for a better result also with more power weapons and less power fists means i deal more damage up front and have to role less saves before my power fists swing in to mop up. <br /> <br /> just my thoughts. yes i know it still have the low model count but all in all it works out better because you can pick out those really annoying cha with (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JotWW</span>) like the Big Mek with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> hiding in the 30+ mob of boys letting the wall of kans advance on your position and that always brings a smile to any wolf lords face =D<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>olympia wrote:</cite>What is the first list--31 models?  I should start a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> army just because it is going to be cheapish.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 300$ in termies<br /> <br /> + a landraider<br /> <br /> + rune priest<br /> <br /> + logan.<br /> <br /> thats over $400.. by no means cheep, but you do get a high point, low model, high pimpage army.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In Dawn of War you won't be able to place the Land Raider on the table unless you buy it as a dedicated transport for the squad it goes with.  Also only Grimnar OR the Rune Priest will be able to go in there with them on Dawn of War because you get to place up to 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and 2 Troops.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I was planning to run a similar army.  I think its a great idea, but mine contained three lonewolves and three squads of longfangs.<br /> <br /> I had <br /> Logan<br /> Pries<br /> <br /> 10 terms w/ 2 cy<br /> 5 w/ cy<br /> 5 w/cy<br /> <br /> Lonewolf in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span><br /> Lonewolf in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(500);'>CF</span><br /> Lonewolf in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(332);'>TDA</span> w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, Frost<br /> <br /> 2x6 Longfangs w/ 5 Rockets<br /> 6 Longfangs w/ 5 Multis<br /> <br /> But I am a little worried about dawn of war as mentioned before.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Panurgle]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Do you like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>.  Would you recommend them as a secondary army for me if i play tau and like the range but hate how they can not get into close combat]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ernshmagl]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have a very similar list <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/262945.page" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a> in the battle reports section.  I'm taking it through it's paces this month at a local tourney so feel free to check it out and maybe it'll give you some fresh fodder for consideration.<br /> (also a note on my list, playing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(150);'>WYSIWYG</span> with figs built two editions ago when you don't have money for bits just yet can make for a few odd choices on gear details :p )<br /> <br /> as a quick suggestion you might consider Venerable Dreadnoughts for your list.  They do take a few points esp if you upgrade them much, <u>however</u> with Venerable and Extra Armor they can soak a great deal of fire and give your Wolf Guard more time to shoot/get in close.  Plus since they come with assault cannons standard you don't even need to upgrade them if you're short on points.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:14:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I affectionately refer to these lists as "Deathwolf squads."<br /> <br /> Just throwing it out there for future use... sounds nicer that "Wolf-wing."<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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