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				<description><![CDATA[ So a discussion came up where a guy was creating a 1k Brets list and had a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>ld</span>.7 Damsel as the General of the army with a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>.8 Paladin as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, as is required for Brets.  For the sake of the following discussion we disregarded any exceptions to this particular rule (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> Assassins, for example).<br /> <br /> My questions arose asking if the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> could have a higher leadership than the General.  Per page 82 of the rulebook, the General is the model with the highest leadership.  It goes on to say if there are multiple character models with equally highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>, you nominate one as the General, the emphasis being the rulebook still specifically states that the General must have the highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> of the characters in the army.<br /> <br /> Another guy stated that this was false as upon giving the Battle Standard to a model, it (per the rules) can no longer be the General.  It no longer has the option to be the General as it is now the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> (barring Slaan).  For example, if I wanted my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>.8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> Sorceress to be my General and have a Master <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, I am certainly entitled to do so despite the Master having higher Leadership.  The Master is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, therefore cannot be the General so the Sorceress is the General.<br /> <br /> This bugs me a little because under the rules for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> the book reads that the standard is usually carried by a model that cannot normally be the General.  In my case, there is nothing stopping my Master from being the General of the army, so it seems that he would be disqualified from being the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> as he must be the General as he has a higher <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span> than my Sorceress.  If I want a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> Master, I would need to take two of them: one General and one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>.<br /> <br /> So, which is it?  I'm definitely new to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(147);'>WHFB</span> and the other person disagreeing with me has played for quite a long time so I'm inclined to believe him, it just seems rather backwards to me.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The Damsel would be the general, but I was under the assumption that the Bret. player would need 2 paladins...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:31:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Am I worong in thinking that the general had to be the character with the Highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:00:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>psf3077 wrote:</cite>Am I worong in thinking that the general had to be the character with the Highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No, but if a character has a supplementary rule that disallows him from being eligible for the General's position then obviously he doesn't count.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:13:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arctik_Firangi]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ With VERY few exceptions, being the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> excludes a character from being the General. In this case, the Damsel would indeed be the General.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:49:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Can a BSB (typically) have higher Ld than a General?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, just making sure the rule was written in that order, check for eligibility for General first before determining who the General would be.  In this case, the Paladin is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> so the Damsel must be the General.  That works.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:26:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kirbinator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Normally I would say that you couldn't turn your highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> model into the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, but the brets force you to so sure the Damsel's the boss.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:55:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bat Manuel]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Can a BSB (typically) have higher Ld than a General?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ That's what I thought, too, but in my example of Master <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> and Sorceress General, it seems that because the Master is the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> he is not able to be the General, end of statement.  So at that point you look to another character model of the highest leadership to be the General, in this case the Sorceress.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:01:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kirbinator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Another example is the Skaven Assassin, which has a higher leadership value than any other character in the army but is specifically unable to be the army's General. The idea that taking an Assassin makes any list fundamentally illegal is a bit silly.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:36:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arctik_Firangi]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Arctik_Firangi wrote:</cite>Another example is the Skaven Assassin, which has a higher leadership value than any other character in the army but is specifically unable to be the army's General. The idea that taking an Assassin makes any list fundamentally illegal is a bit silly.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I specifically mentioned Assassins in the second sentence of the original post and how they had clearly written exceptions.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:49:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kirbinator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Heh, sorry, I forgot about that in the time between my posts. I don't know the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>DE</span> list besides.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:37:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arctik_Firangi]]></author>
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				<title>Can a BSB (typically) have higher Ld than a General?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Kinda like vamps under 2k points.  Wight Kings are leadership 9.  Regular vamps are 7.  Your army must be led by a vampire, though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:03:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ artyboy]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Can a BSB (typically) have higher Ld than a General?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Are Wing Knights character models, though?  That was my whole confusion, highest <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>Ld</span>. character model.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:54:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Kirbinator]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, whight kings are characters.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:57:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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