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				<description><![CDATA[ My opinion is DO NOT buy from wargamesempire.com! My reason being:<br /> After having a few good sales with them (so thought they were OK) it has quickly escalated to a s**t fest.<br /> I currently have 910 quid ($2110NZD) of orders that have not been sent, and emails and phone calls to them are being ignored!<br /> They gave me invalid tracking numbers when I asked for the tracking no.<br /> Some of the stuff is 4 months outstanding!<br /> The few things I have now received have taken 2 mths.<br /> This not a fault of post as the dates on the post dates are only 5 days before I got them.<br /> In my opinion, they do not have stock or money and rely on new sales to buy the previous order!<br /> This is not good business!'How can they get a new web site if they can't even compete peoples orders!<br /> GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR<br /> For the small price difference I now recommend dealing with maelstrom games as items are dispatched within a day of order and they have real-time stock numbers so you know if you have to wait for something.<br /> <br /> If anyone else has experienced problems let the community know!<br /> I have logged the transactions with Paypal for them to get to the bottom of this and either get my money or my models! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Smart move for doing the transaction through Paypal, thanks for giving us customer feedback - hopefully it'll sway buyers away from them or give 'em a swift kick in the ass to shape up.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks cause i actually considered ordering from them. NOT NOW! Hey if you want to bug them some more there is somebody that logs in under Wargamesempire on this site.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will be interested to see how the accused handle this situation and respond.<br /> <br /> Duh-duhhhh!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi,<br /> <br /> I haven't seen your post before going to my own.<br /> <br /> I have a lot of problems with Wargames Empire too.<br /> They don't answer, even sending any tracking number at all.<br /> <br /> Most of all, I have bought frome France, and it will be a mess in international legal prosecution.<br /> <br /> Because I'll go for it, as I took the first step for it already.<br /> <br /> So, I'm not alone in this mess... conforting at the very least...<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <i>Copied from fredddd's thread;</i>  [fredddd's thread baby, fredddd's thread!  vrooooom dun-der-dun-der-dum-der-der  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ahem]<br /> <br /> Why legal?<br /> <br /> If you used a credit card (and I assume that you did) then just call your credit provider whom will do all of the work for you.  you will be covered for your purchases for 90 days (don’t wait though act now), since it is not your money it is the card companies until you have received the goods.  They will have their own attack dogs to recover the money and you shouldn't have to lift a finger.<br /> <br /> If you didn't use a Credit Card for an online purchase (you now know why this is a bad idea!) then I would advance the legal aspect ASAP.  Since they are in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> they are bound by the Distance Sale Act which should give you the proper recourse against this company.<br /> <br /> Either way, good luck with this I hope that this is resolved satisfactorily for you.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the advice notprop !!!<br /> <br /> I'll contact my card provider asap !]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No probs mate, let us know how you get on with this company.  I'm sure allot of Dakka users will want to know the out come (this to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> as well).]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I always ordered from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Online but now I will continue and never stop.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Tim the Biovore wrote:</cite>I always ordered from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Online but now I will continue and never stop.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Then you're foolish, ask HBMC about how he gets things sent to OZ for cheap from a reputable company...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the heads up.<br /> <br /> I'll keep an eye out for this guy in the SwapShop.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MeanGreenStompa wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Tim the Biovore wrote:</cite>I always ordered from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> Online but now I will continue and never stop.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Then you're foolish, ask <a href="http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">HBMC</a> about how he gets things sent to OZ for cheap from a reputable company...</div></blockquote><br /> There's definately <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rickrolling" target="_new" rel="nofollow">something missing</a> from this thread.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ [After looking at the web site] Hmmm... I thought <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> prevented retailers from having an online cart system for purchasing their products?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>oni wrote:</cite>[After looking at the web site] Hmmm... I thought <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> prevented retailers from having an online cart system for purchasing their products?</div></blockquote><br /> Only in the US.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A little google search came up with this gem.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?s=8471d72ff239b60f424fbcc23146afd8&t=28605" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?s=8471d72ff239b60f424fbcc23146afd8&t=28605</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:43:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Glad im not the only one who has had delivery problems <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad arrived today (date sent was the 17th) and that was after just over 3 weeks.<br /> So it does seem they take orders and dont check stock.<br /> A few days late is no big deal, but nearly a month late before posting does take the piss.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I say maelstrom all the way <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, several friends of mine use Wayland Games and I'm placing an order with them shortly. Feedback about them is very very good.<br /> <a href="http://www.waylandgames.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.waylandgames.co.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>/</a>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use Wayland Games as well, quick postage, cheap costs and minimal fuss. <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Goliath]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use <a href="http://www.gamingfigures.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.gamingfigures.com/</a> <br /> <br /> Some of the best customer service I have ever recieved after chatting to one of the guys there several time. Always got my order in good time and if they had to order in the stock from <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> they were forthcoming with the info for you.<br /> <br /> Maelstrom seems to be the best to go with if you live over seas since the free shipping is insanely good. But gaming figures have a better discount so great for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span>. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like <a href="http://gwonline.biz/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://gwonline.biz/</a> They have a great site, carry alot of stock, have good discounts and for me (In NZ) The longest a package took to arrive was 5 days, the shortest being 3. Plus they have good feedback, I sent some emails questioning about shipping before I placed my first order and got the responses a half hour - hour after sending them.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ive got a good idea where our money has gone. This came from someone who knows these guys in real life and he posted this another forum<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Llamafish wrote:</cite><br /> I now that with setting up the website there had issue with the merchant bank wanting up front 5000pounds and games workshop havent delieverd a 1500 or 15000 orders...<br /> <br /> Gaz was kicked out by his wife, his in the moving phase <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(258);'>atm</span>, also had his bike stolen, I not even joking!!<br /> <br /> but i have a word as i like to not see them gettting a negative reply<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Got a date on that?<br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've been emailing Wargamesempire about the three Eldar Battleforces they owe me (£102) and not been receiving any replies. Ordered over a month ago.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What ever you do, don't rely on Paypal getting your money back, those guys are useless...in fact they're less than useless! If the item wasn't purchased via ebay, you have almost no cover!! trust me, I've been through it with another online seller, paypal made me go through all the motions, letting me think that I was in with a chance of recovering my money, but when it came down to the line, and the seller was still not communicating, they left me out in the cold!!!! They only guarantee a recovery of your goods or moeny if the item was purchased via ebay!<br /> <br /> The advice Notprop gave is spot on, don't waste 40 somthing days waiting for paypal, just get onto your card company and let them do the job, it'll be more efficient!<br /> <br /> In addition, send the seller an email saying you will go to Trading Standards, what they're doing is in breach of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> distance selling laws, and Trading Standards will chase this up, and they will be fined or worse if found to be in breach of said Trading Standards! I sent the seller I was having problems with an email with the threat of a report going to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(130);'>TS</span>, and they got back to me right away!! <br /> <br /> So you've got two avenues to chose from, the good thing with Trading Standards is theres no "time limit" to launch a complaint!!<br /> <br /> Good Luck, and thanks for the heads up!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>ghost_280 wrote:</cite>A little google search came up with this gem.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?s=8471d72ff239b60f424fbcc23146afd8&t=28605" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?s=8471d72ff239b60f424fbcc23146afd8&t=28605</a></div></blockquote>I remember reading this before, Wargames Empire has been brought up before now that I remember.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://giftsforgeeks.org.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://giftsforgeeks.org.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span></a> <br /> <br /> Very good service, good prices, speedy and well stocked]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all.<br /> <br /> I posted about this on other forums as well ( a lot of people  seem to not be getting there orders.<br /> <br /> I have also bin trying to get in contact with wargames empire and no reply to emails and they never pick up there phone ( some times its busy so i know some one is  there )<br /> <br /> I placed my order on 9/9/09  so not bin 10 business days yet  so i give the shop till wednesday  see if my order comes.<br /> <br /> If my order  don't come or there is stll no contact from the shop by 9/23/9  i will go to my bank and let them take it from there.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:53:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Phonic, I note on the Heresy <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(582);'>OL</span> website you mention that you used a debit/bank card.  In the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> you do not get the same level of protection that you would get from a credit card i.e. credit card = visa's money, debit = your money.  Don't worry though as you will still be covered by the distance selling act, its just easier with a credit card.<br /> <br /> Sorry I am really repeating myself of this thread and it may not be helpful to those already being messed around by these jokers but I say again (knowing that there are younger users and people inexperienced with finance and distance sales) - ONLY EVER USE A CREDIT CARD WHEN PURCHASING ON THE INTERNET!!<br /> <br /> Apart from the fact that if you have a good one you will get additional benefits/cash back/discounts from its use, its great to be able to call upon a multinational company like barclaycard/visa to fight your battles for you.<br /> <br /> There seems to be allot of bad press about this company, I would as the title suggests avoid them.  They are based in the same town/area as bot <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> and Maelstrom, which strikes me as pretty poor business, do not seem to have any sort of communications with their customers and can not meet delivery dates.  This rings of a back bedroom operation expanding too rapidly, which will soon fold.  I would make sure I do not have an order with them when they do, saving an extra couple of percent on an order really isn't worth the additional hassle.  Cancels you orders and re-order with one of the above recommended companies.   <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:24:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi guys,<br /> <br /> another story regarding this (one man ?) company from Germany: after a friend of mine ordered stuff from them with no problems I placed an order there about some planet strike stuff. This was on 2nd of July 09. The only reason I ordered there was they had the planet strike outpost offered (which turned out to be a mistake later) which other online-shops didn't. Normally I order stuff on <a href="http://gwonline.biz/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://gwonline.biz/</a> with no problems. <br /> I paid via bank transfer as they didn't offer credit card payment until then. That money was booked from my account a few days later. When nothing arrived I sent an email which was answered 3 (!!!) weeks later. Meanwhile I called that guys (which always took a lot of tries) and it turned out the the money arrived already but was not "booked" within thier system yet. They promised to ship the stuff now. Weeks later nothing had arrived. So more emails, requests via thier website and phone calls. This time it turned out that the stuff was sent and marked delivered by royal mail but I got nothing. I even got a tracking number this time. So he promised to order and send it again (this time with UPS). That was 3 weeks ago. Since then I try to call that company 3-4 times a day without success (however as mentioned before the lien is busy sometimes).<br /> So it's more than two months now and I don't really know what to do to get my money back with that bank transfer stuff ... However good to know I'm not the only one.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span>: ordered 5 boxes of Space Hulk from Wayland one week before release. Arrived two weeks later !<br /> <br /> Bye,<br /> Stoni]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:15:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ahhh so that was you <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Stoni42 wrote:</cite>Hi guys,<br /> <br /> another story regarding this (one man ?) company from Germany: after a friend of mine ordered stuff from them with no problems I placed an order there about some planet strike stuff. This was on 2nd of July 09. The only reason I ordered there was they had the planet strike outpost offered (which turned out to be a mistake later) which other online-shops didn't. Normally I order stuff on <a href="http://gwonline.biz/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://gwonline.biz/</a> with no problems. <br /> I paid via bank transfer as they didn't offer credit card payment until then. That money was booked from my account a few days later. When nothing arrived I sent an email which was answered 3 (!!!) weeks later. Meanwhile I called that guys (which always took a lot of tries) and it turned out the the money arrived already but was not "booked" within thier system yet. They promised to ship the stuff now. Weeks later nothing had arrived. So more emails, requests via thier website and phone calls. This time it turned out that the stuff was sent and marked delivered by royal mail but I got nothing. I even got a tracking number this time. So he promised to order and send it again (this time with UPS). That was 3 weeks ago. Since then I try to call that company 3-4 times a day without success (however as mentioned before the lien is busy sometimes).<br /> So it's more than two months now and I don't really know what to do to get my money back with that bank transfer stuff ... However good to know I'm not the only one.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span>: ordered 5 boxes of Space Hulk from Wayland one week before release. Arrived two weeks later !<br /> <br /> Bye,<br /> Stoni</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>MeanGreenStompa wrote:</cite>Then you're foolish, ask HBMC about how he gets things sent to OZ for cheap from a reputable company...</div></blockquote>Too bad they can't get stuff to the USA in a reputable manner. <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well I leave this fight happy I just got a 820 GBP refund <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That is a seriously large chunk of change - I am happy for you!<br /> <br /> Good luck to everyone else!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:16:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div>This is an open message to all of our customers, old and new.<br /> Firstly, we apologise for what has been service that has plain and simply not been good enough. We have had some problems, personal and business. On the business front we had some problems getting orders out which led to a back log that we struggled to clear. 2 weeks ago we put in a very large order with Games Workshop which was more than enough to clear all outstanding orders and leave us with enough stock to keep us on top of any orders to come. One way or another, though no fault of our own we were constantly being told by Games Workshop that the order was not released for whatever reason. We won’t go into detail as it’s not our place to do so but the order is actually released and on its way. The order will be in by Wednesday next week (23rd) and we are prepared to work through the night to make sure all orders are despatched by the day after at the latest. <br /> <br /> Where do we go from here? Well I have heard rumours that we were gang under and were subject to a failed takeover bid ect but believe me when I say we are in a strong financial position (with outside backing if needed), are going to move on from this and expand our ranges and are more than committed to trying to offer the best service possible from here on in. Obviously we need to change things to ensure this never happens again and we are already working on this. We are looking at employing more staff as it is obvious that the 2 of us, no matter how many hours we work, are not enough to offer the level of service you deserve (already led to one relationship breakdown). Obviously there are those of you that will never order from us again, and those of you that will simply dismiss this apology. However for anyone that orders from us from here on in, either returning customers or for the first time we guarantee to offer the best service possible. We fully aim to be the best place to come for all wargames and modelling accessories.<br /> Every order from before today’s date that goes out will have some extras added to go some way towards an apology.<br /> <br /> We will be contacting everyone personally to explain the situation over the next few days.<br /> Again we apologise and look forward to seeing you in the future.<br /> Gareth Bennett & Gareth Fox <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> From Warseer <a href="http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221003&page=2" target="_new" rel="nofollow">here</a>.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Has anyone got any more recent news on these guys? After sending three emails to these lot, I saw their post that was reposted here from Warseer and thought I'd give them a little extra time. However, my order is still outstanding since August 16th and I am getting no replies via email. I've emailed again once since the above message, but still no contact from them...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am still getting no reply via email, and they are not answering the phone either.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ From a similar thread on Warseer..<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>I received a complete refund through paypal today.<br /> Here is the short answer i got for it<br /> <br /> Quote Hi,<br /> I am very sorry for any inconvinience but we are no longer stocking Games Workshop models. We will be sending out a full explination to all our customers but it means we will not be able to honour this order.<br /> <br /> I am very sorry<br /> Gareth  <br /> At least i will be able to order again somewhere else.. probably Wayland. </div></blockquote><br /> <br />  and after that...<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>This is an email to explain the situation at Wargames Empire. We have took the decision to stop selling Games Workshop models for the foreseeable future. We have had some issues with Games Workshop as a supplier and feel we can offer a much faster, more reliable service though other products and companies. It is not a decision we have taken lightly and who knows, we may well start stocking it again in the new year. But what it means here and now is we are refunding any orders we cannot honour here and now. All Games Workshop products are now removed from our site and will be replaced by other games systems and models which we feel are better anyway. 1 door closes, 20 more open.<br /> We will continue to stock and expand on the pre owned Games Workshop models.<br /> Over the coming weeks you will be able to buy from us. All Rackham and Priveteer press models and games. Infinity. Many many more games and figures. Vallejo Paints and MIG Pigments, Ziterdes scenery, Armourcast and Ultraforge. Along with our Javis, Humbrol, Revell and other ranges we feel it more than makes up for not having Games Workshop.We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. If you have not already received either a despatch email or a full refund, please let us know."<br /> <br /> <br /> I received a full refund yesterday after the above e-mail and thought wargames empire had performed their first honourable deed since I ordered goods 6 weeks ago, so I called my bank. Not surprisingly the money was not returned from wargames empire but retrieved by the bank. In the end my bank will get their money through his bank, so keep up your efforts and chase your refunds. Gareth and Gareth are a disgrace. They do not treat customers as a "valued customer" and are full of hollow promises. I am sure they have no funds and probably are folding as a company. There is a long track record with these two over 2 online stores. They never communicate on a personal level and put up smoke screens through vague generic e-mails which are full of lies to buy them time. I suspect this is not the last we have heard from the Gareths and will probably find another dodgy site with their names attached. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221003&page=9" target="_new" rel="nofollow">linky</a>.<br /> <br /> hmm.. grim news it seems. Good luck ! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sounds like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> might have stopped trading with them, rather than the other way around.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yep. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> makes money selling to people that sell their product. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> likes money. The main reason <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> would decline to send someone a large order is because that someone isn't paying them. They obviously have problems with their <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> account, lack of money to pay for an order is the most likely source of that problem. <br /> <br /> Very common recurring theme amongst a lot of lower tier mailorder discounters. They all want to act like Warstore, Wayland, Maelstrom. Good retailers make it seem easy to be in business. Guys jump in, and find it's actually all about hard work, and efficient business practices. Eventually, when they aren't doing well, they end up taking money for product they won't be able to pay for, and we get another thread here on dakka.  <img src="/s/i/a/5c217f7a079a81c85feb45c988babf50.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'll go to Maelstrom, or maybe Wayland in future.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hmmm, sounds like nasty business! ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I tried ordering a Descent Board Game bundle from wargamesimpire.com... 300+canadian dollars... after not hearing from them after a month, I got worried... I even tried contacting them, no response, finally I had to put a complaint to paypal... wargamers finally responded... I got my money back.<br /> <br /> Anyone know a good store for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span> that uses paypal? and Canada or US prices?<br /> <br /> Thanks]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.thewarstore.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewarstore.com</a><br /> <br /> Great service, great guy and fast too.  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the site -- I don't see the War <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> units for sale though, just saw a list of items with SKU numbers<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I'm guessing I need to get the SKU from the game workshops page (to see what the order contains) then look for it at thewarstore.com?]]></description>
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