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				<description><![CDATA[ I recently saw someone over-react a lot to a model that had some mold lines on it.<br /> <br /> I'm just kind of curious, how do you guys deal with them?  And if so, with how much obsession.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:18:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just take the knife to um. Mold lines are a little unsightly to me, but thats about it. Some people just freak the frig out for some reason. Its not the end of the world <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:20:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just give them a quick trim up once the model is done and ready for paint.<br /> doesent bother me all that much unless they stand out, but it stops people bitching <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> also, drilling out barrels is the same on here <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:21:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Soooo, Mold Lines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Sometimes I manage to rub them all down but other times I seem to miss them, however it's not a big deal if you miss them, some people seem to get so worke dup over them <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>, it's not like it's there model is it? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:23:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wolfgang]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mold lines can ruin a model, definitely. They must ALWAYS be removed, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>. I personally hate the cleaning phase of assembling a model, but to be honest it's one of the most important. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:36:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I don't mind mold lines as such, but I prefer models that do not have them, I try to get rid of all of them but I'm not always succesful]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:40:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, the hoby knife trim is what I normally do, but I don't consider myself a golden demon painter either, so it's not terribly important to me. (And I don't drill barrels out...but I do put a dot of black paint in the middle <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:43:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ starbomber109]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Soooo, Mold Lines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think mold lines speak a bit about the person's attitude towards the hobby.  Prep work sucks, no doubt about it.  But some of it comes down a bit to your pride in workmanship.  People who want gaming pieces, generally don't care about mold lines or much about painting.  It doesn't make sense to me to cut 10-15 minutes of prep so I can then spend 2-3 hours painting a fig that, in my opinion, will look like crap after I'm done.  Sorta like painting the Mona Lisa on a dirty dish towel:  a flawed canvas detracts from the work.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:44:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ As a side note, one day I decided to try out my file on mold lines....<br /> <br /> bad idea <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  You destroy more than the mold line.  So those three guys who picked sand paper....probably not too good of a tactic.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:49:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use a file, you just have to be careful.<br /> <br /> They must be done or your model looks like ass.  It doesn't matter how good the paint job is, or how cool a conversion it is, if there are mold lines on it the end result sucks.  It's just that bad.<br /> <br /> Yeah, it sucks doing them - so do them while doing something else.  I'll save up all my mold-line-removal-needing stuff and sit and do them while watching a football game.  <br /> <br /> It's like pinning.   It takes longer initially, but the end result is so worth the time investment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:05:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What if it would ruin the model further though? Ive had some models where the mould like is so terrible that if you actually filed it down or w/e you do, it would mess up the model... Im having a case like this on my Chaos Dragon... Theres a giant line going right down the neck.. Half of its darned skin on his neck is lifted higher then the rest! If I sand it down It would make a wierd slanted shape... I will more then likely have to green stuff a giant cut down the neck... Luckily this will look good considering how the model is suppose to look all... cut in half ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:18:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I normally take the knife to them, but there's some that are too bad to get rid of completely or that I miss until I'm basecoating - which I reluctantly ignore. It doesn't bother me as much on squad models, but on characters and conversions it gets my goat to see mold lines I've missed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:44:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gavin Thorne]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I just hate them on fleshy things mainly. I have to second (or fifth) that people freak out about them too much. My "pride as a workman" doesn't come into play with my toy soldiers, sorry.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:49:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cannerus_The_Unbearable]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I use a combination of knife, files and sandpaper but I don't obsess about mould lines unless it is a 'character' model.<br /> <br /> I'm used to painting big historical armies. You can't worry about minor mould lines when you have 200+ figures to get through.<br /> <br /> I am far from an aspiring Golden Daemon painter though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:49:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>the_Armyman wrote:</cite>I think mold lines speak a bit about the person's attitude towards the hobby.  Prep work sucks, no doubt about it.  But some of it comes down a bit to your pride in workmanship.  People who want gaming pieces, generally don't care about mold lines or much about painting.  It doesn't make sense to me to cut 10-15 minutes of prep so I can then spend 2-3 hours painting a fig that, in my opinion, will look like crap after I'm done.  Sorta like painting the Mona Lisa on a dirty dish towel:  a flawed canvas detracts from the work.</div></blockquote><br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Redbeard wrote:</cite>They must be done or your model looks like ass.  It doesn't matter how good the paint job is, or how cool a conversion it is, if there are mold lines on it the end result sucks.  It's just that bad.</div></blockquote><br /> Absolutely agree with that!<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:</cite> My "pride as a workman" doesn't come into play with my toy soldiers, sorry.</div></blockquote><br /> If so, why do you paint the toy soldiers at all? Either they're just playing pieces - and that's fine just use them out of the box -  or you want them to look like models, in which case they absolutely cannot have mould lines.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:03:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sgt Jelal]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I did not care about mold lines until recently. Newer models have gotten cleaned up, but stuff that's already been painted will remain lined...<br /> <br /> <br /> ...for now.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ KaloranSLC]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Soooo, Mold Lines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've never actually had bad mold lines prior to the last 2 Guard platoon boxes I bought right before <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> cut down pack quantity on them. The last 2 had some excessively bad mold lines, to the point where the bitz had a vaccum-formed flashing thing going on. Just took a knife to em' and cleared out the worst of it. The minis are gaming pieces, not display pieces, to me. So making them spotlight worthy isn't something I care about, but I do expect a good end result nonetheless<br /> <br /> Other than that though, my experience with mold lines has been next to nil. Maybe I just made lucky picks <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Buttlerthepug wrote:</cite>What if it would ruin the model further though? Ive had some models where the mould like is so terrible that if you actually filed it down or w/e you do, it would mess up the model... Im having a case like this on my Chaos Dragon... Theres a giant line going right down the neck.. Half of its darned skin on his neck is lifted higher then the rest! If I sand it down It would make a wierd slanted shape... I will more then likely have to green stuff a giant cut down the neck... Luckily this will look good considering how the model is suppose to look all... cut in half </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> I disagree on the mold line ruining a mini. Ive never seen one THAT bad. The normal ones get a blade over it. The worst ones I get my low powered dremel and a small drum bit on them. If your careful youll never even harm the mini]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:26:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KingCracker]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Soooo, Mold Lines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It's files and the hobby knife for me.  The most annoying thing for me is when I'm base coating a figure and then discover that I've missed a mold line.   <img src="/s/i/a/dec8d79950a36218cfae9200a43fa59f.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ solkan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know there are folks who don't really think about them much and that's fine. I don't understand spending time on a great paint job and leaving mold lines. It just seems pointless.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Zip Napalm]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm not mean enough to tell someone they're really bad in a forward way, but they do make a model look fairly crap, and they're really easy to do at least a decent enough job removing them, and will infinitely improve the look of a model.<br /> <br /> Now ask me about sharp highlights  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Soooo, Mold Lines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Sand Paper and a file]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:</cite>I just hate them on fleshy things mainly. I have to second (or fifth) that people freak out about them too much. My "pride as a workman" doesn't come into play with my toy soldiers, sorry.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> That's cool.  But where does pride of workmanship take place for you?  I spend far less than some on this hobby, yet I find it hard to spend the amount of money I do and end up with something that I'm not proud of when painted.  But, like I said, everyone has different priorities.  If it's just a game, then don't worry about mold lines or painting!]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ the_Armyman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mold lines on my models bother me and I try to run my hobby knife over most of the visible ones however on metal models especially small bitz like heads it can be a royal pain in the ass.<br /> <br /> Sometimes trying to remove the mold lines results in accidentally shedding off more than I bargained for requiring more touch up work later with greenstuff, etc.<br /> <br /> As for other people's models - it can look unsightly and I agree that mold lines are an automatic "fail" in painting competitions but for a tabletop army especially a horde one I can give some leeway.  Definitely disagree that models are flat out ruined because of lines but I understand that mentality however if the guy did a bad ass paint job or conversion work it'll still look great.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Simple Green, the safe product recommended for paint stripping, also helps weaken or remove mold lines from my experience.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Buttlerthepug wrote:</cite>What if it would ruin the model further though? Ive had some models where the mould like is so terrible that if you actually filed it down or w/e you do, it would mess up the model... Im having a case like this on my Chaos Dragon... Theres a giant line going right down the neck.. Half of its darned skin on his neck is lifted higher then the rest! If I sand it down It would make a wierd slanted shape... I will more then likely have to green stuff a giant cut down the neck... Luckily this will look good considering how the model is suppose to look all... cut in half </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yup, if the mold line is too pronounced, green stuff on/around it to fix that problem.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I do a quick once-over with a file.  If it's particularly stubborn and way too pronounced, I might attack it with sandpaper, although I've found that to be pretty dangerous stuff for detail.<br /> <br /> If I've basecoated it already before I notice it, it officially becomes "character" and thus more charming, because I'm sure as heck not going to go through paint to get it.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I always try and clean them all out.<br /> I'm not really bothered by mold lines on others models, unless they ask for C&C or start talking about their model being a conversion, nicely modelled etc.<br /> <br /> If you're in it for the game, it's all ok. <br /> But the moment you start modelling for real, mold lines are a lazymans item.<br /> <br /> I have never seen a mold line that doesn't ruin a model for the eye.<br /> <br /> Beork]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Beork]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've never seen a mold line that ruined a model. If it's great paint job, it's a great paint job, even if i can see the mold lines. It really does not bother me.<br /> <br /> I would remove really big, obvious ones and maybe take more time over character models, but otherwise I don't bother...]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Zip Napalm wrote:</cite>I know there are folks who don't really think about them much and that's fine. I don't understand spending time on a great paint job and leaving mold lines. It just seems pointless.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I know what you mean, however I don't see the point in a great paint job. I want my models to look good on the table, not when photographed at 10 megapixels and blown up to three times life size, so I'm happy to overlook minor imperfections.<br /> <br /> I was reading a post the other day by someone who spent 8-20 hours per figure, and was worried about the amount of time it took to finish his army. Not surprising!<br /> <br /> I once painted 72 figures on a Friday night, including flags and bases, and used them in an exhibition game the next day. Mind you, they were 15mm ACW and I only did basic highlighting. But when you deploy a brigade of infantry, you don't need to worry about individual figures.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Kilkrazy]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I value my free-time.  So I rarely remove any, I don't enjoy doing it so why bother?!  It doesn't bug me at all.  And I think it is seriously pathetic for someone to complain about them on other people's models - very insulting and childish... ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:21:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blake]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Blake wrote:</cite>I think it is seriously pathetic for someone to complain about them on other people's models - very insulting and childish... </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yes, I can imagine that, but now imagine someone asking the general public (ie this forum) how his models look. Why should I not comment on flaws that I percieve? As long as the coments are not rude.<br /> The person in question can always ignore the comment if he/she likes.<br /> <br /> The same would count for painting, are you not allowed to comment on bad paintjobs jsut because the painter is not good?<br /> <br /> Simply flaming a model for the mold lines is a bit much, but one can say it ruins it (in their opinion) and the owner can then decide to do something or nothing with it.<br /> <br /> <br /> Beork]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Beork]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mold lines have never really struck me. If i ever come accros a prominant one, i'll try and remove it but i've never seen a model ruined by mold lines.<br /> Personally, i think anyone fussy enough to look for 'em isnt trully apreciating the acctual paint job.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:26:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bascilica]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I remove it  passing polystirene glue, but only if they are not  to bad to use  a cutter.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:38:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ maxdamek]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm guilty of forgetting what I've sorted already and what I havent before spraying stuff.  Usually halfway through basecoats before I realise and by that time I'm in the mindset of I WANT to paint <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:08:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vermillion]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I hate them. I spend a good portion of time filing and carving them away. I once saw this amazing Black Templar Chaplain on a bike, the most awesome paint job I'd seen on something like that and it was all ruined because of the mold line was visible on the front wheel.<br /> <br /> To me it should be standard practice to remove the lines as it's just proper preparation. You wouldn't paint a mini without primer so why should you make a mini with mold lines?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:14:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ infilTRAITOR]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I scrape 'em off with a scalpel, but do so fairly discriminately. I mean, a decent paint job can be ruined if there's a mould line sitting right in the middle.<br /> <br /> If they're on a large surface (cadian shoulderpads, I'm looking at you) then they must be removed, for sure.<br /> But if they're cleverly placed, like down a hair line or along a natural seam, then they just get glossed over.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Tek]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ a knife .. but sometimes I go to far and take chunks out the model. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:20:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Shaman]]></author>
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