Sanctjud wrote:Captain: if he goes termy armor, give him a more impressive combat weapon.
Assault termies: I suggest a thunder hammer or two, for str 8 helps against a variety of targets.
Which Land raider?

Tactical Termies look ok, I prefer the CML though.
And the Raider: which one?

A bit much on raiders IMO at 1850.

Tactical squads are ok, but combi-weapons are great buys too.

Scouts are meh, easily killed at 1850 if you think they are just gonna sit on an objective all game.

Devs: they seem to be a 10 man squad right, cause the points match up to it.
I think I prefer ML’s just in case you don’t want to combat squad you can spam templates and still hurt light/medium tanks with all shots.
I feel 4 of the same weapons would be better though.
TLLC seems excessive for points.

The assault squad sounds good, at least they can keep up with rhino/raiders and provide counter charging.

hippykiller wrote:Comment and critique please...

Space Marine Captain:140
Terminator Armour
quite useless... costs as much as 3x assault terminators, and not near as good. I'd replace him with a jump pack librarian

Terminator Assault Squad:460
4xTerminators, 1xSergent, Lighting Claws, Land Raider
throw in at least 3 thunder hammers... they quite rock. also, give the raider a multimelta... 10 point upgrade, makes you lethal to other raiders, something lascannons just don't

Terminator Squad:480
4xTerminators, 1xSergent, Assault Cannon, Power Fists and Storm Bolters
Land Raider
Personally, I feel the cyclone launcher is better than the ass can, but both are decent... give the raider a multimelta

Tactical Squad:220
9xMarines, 1xSergent, Meltagun, Missile Launcher,
Rhino, Storm Bolter

Tactical Squad:220
9xMarines, 1xSergent, Meltagun, Missile Launcher,
Rhino, Storm Bolter
Drop the storm bolters off the rhinos... try to get fists on the sergeants. they are going to have to get in close to use the meltas, fists really help out against pretty much everything

Scout Squad:75
4xScouts, 1xSergent, 5xSniper Rifles
these guys are going to be holding objectives, and sniper rifles are worthless for damage. give them some cloaks, so when they are shot at they can go to ground and get a 2+ cover save

Devastator Squad:255
4xMarines, 1xSergent, 2xHeavy Bolters, 2xPlasma Cannons,
Razorback, TL Lascannon
I'd definately agree that you should drop this for a squad of assault marines. Throw the librarian in with it... give the librarian null zone / avenger, and the squad 2x flamers and a hammer on the sarge. I run a squad like this... it annihilates anything except terminators or nobs. 3 flamer templates tends to be brutal

Total:1850

Thinking about running this list in a tourney next month. Possible substitution I was thinking about would be replacing the Dev. Squad with an 10x assault squad, Sergent with PF and PP, and taking a 5th scout with a missile launcher. That would put me at 1848...
And also dropping the captain for a chaplain with jump pack and running him with the Assault squad, and giving the Assault squad another two PP... That would put me 3pts over but I don't think that would be a problem.

Let me get some opinions..! Thanks....