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At the top of my list, however, is a Leman Russ squadron with three Punishers. That's three S5 Heavy 20 weapons. Did someone say DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA?

So, what do you use when you'd rather scream and fill the air with lead than just grab a plasmagun?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020792.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Lootas- everything counts in large amounts!
Same goes for Shoota Boys!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020796.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor.

I have taken 4hb havoc squads, cause i like rolling lots of dice. Pity they didn't do much...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020870.page GMT The pew-pew factor. AP (against infantry) has been reduced with the abundance of cover saves, which has made high rate of fire weaponry more powerful. Most of these multiple shot weapons have a low Strength though, so they are fairly useless against vehicles. That is exactly the problem with most of these units. Units that do have multiple high Strength shots are usually pretty strong (Lootas, Scatter Laser War Walkers).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020890.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020890.page GMT The pew-pew factor. Dak Dak alright SM tac squad with Bolters rapid fire also Devestator squad made up entirely of Heavy Bolters its all about how you like ya lead!

Cant say no to a Dreadnought with an assault cannon cant really say no to assault cannons.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020927.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020927.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020930.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020932.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020932.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020938.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020938.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020941.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020955.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020955.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020995.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1020995.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. CSM, and I also run Noise Marines. And yes, I couldn't agree more, Noise Marines are great at pumping out DAKKA! Though I usually have 9 sonic blasters and a Blastmaster.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021013.page GMT The pew-pew factor.

On that note, I like assault cannons, 4 rending shots per gun is LOTS of dakka! (Big-shootas are neat too, most ork players actually favor the DAKKA over the rokkit launcher)

3x Punisher sounds fun, but 3x hydra also has lots of dakka, and is simultaneously better than the punisher.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021156.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Seriously, 60 shots at BS3 is 30 hits, S5 means vs gaunts and guardsmen is 25 wounds. a 5+ save is 16-17 dead. Against orks is is 30 hits, 20 wounds, and still 16-17 dead.

Not too impressive for the points, is it? But better than the hydras, 12 shots, 9 hits, 7-8 wounds, no saves, so 7-8 dead. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021167.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021167.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Canonness Rory wrote:Well, not at anti-horde. At anti light vehicle it's great, but the 3 punishers is better at killing guardsmen, orks, gaunts, etc.

Seriously, 60 shots at BS3 is 30 hits, S5 means vs gaunts and guardsmen is 25 wounds. a 5+ save is 16-17 dead. Against orks is is 30 hits, 20 wounds, and still 16-17 dead.

Not too impressive for the points, is it? But better than the hydras, 12 shots, 9 hits, 7-8 wounds, no saves, so 7-8 dead.


If you are already playing IG, you give your Chimera's heavy flamers for the anti-horde, which do loads better than than the punisher, especially when you start figuring in a 4+ cover save that they would be getting against the punisher.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021395.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Canonness Rory wrote:Well, not at anti-horde. At anti light vehicle it's great, but the 3 punishers is better at killing guardsmen, orks, gaunts, etc.

Seriously, 60 shots at BS3 is 30 hits, S5 means vs gaunts and guardsmen is 25 wounds. a 5+ save is 16-17 dead. Against orks is is 30 hits, 20 wounds, and still 16-17 dead.

Not too impressive for the points, is it? But better than the hydras, 12 shots, 9 hits, 7-8 wounds, no saves, so 7-8 dead.



Hmm, you did say points there. Three punishers come in at 540 points, three hydras at 225. So that actually makes the hydras more impressive for the points. And the hydras could be doing their work from twice as far away, so against hordes that also helps make the hydras a bit better.

Sliggoth]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021601.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021601.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. AP- isn't so hot. About the only thing it's good for is slaying my friend's daemon prince. Guard has much better stuff for killing hordes in the elite (PBS S9 AP? is tasty), heavy support (pretty much any other LR variant) and fast attack slots (Valkyries and Hellhound/Banewolf are all nasty).

This being said, I wouldn't be opposed to rules for a Vulture fast skimmer with twin-linked punishers. I think that would be rather effective both at getting rear shots on things (okay so it's ap-, but still!) and potentially negating cover saves with more mobility. Sure having two separate cannons would be awesome, but the twin-linking would be nice since you could still fire 'one' weapon while moving 12" since you'd be fast.

DoW ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021721.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021721.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor.
8 str 7 shots a turn is pretty nice, even if its AP 4. Doing 6-7 surefire wounds > 1 ap 1 wound I think ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021762.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1021762.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
And for no cover save goodness, I like BA vet assault squads with Flamers and combi flamers, or Inquistor lord and retinue. Incinerator, three flamers and three combi flamers (Just a maybe. I normally do incinerator and two flamers)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022096.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022096.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022132.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022135.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022196.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022196.page GMT The pew-pew factor. IG playing friend tried the Punisher (admittedly just one) against my ork horde. Big build up during deployment and my first turn, I really didn't like the idea of 20 S5 hits and he knew. That fear lasted right up until it fired and killed a paltry two boyz. Very m'eh.

He's now using Executioners against me and those things should be in breach of some sort of international convention for the amount fo hurt they do!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022365.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022365.page GMT Re:The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022382.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022382.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Owain wrote:Does anyone take units just for the sheer number of shots they can fire? I know Swooping Hawk exarchs have some neat tricks and a full Conscript Squad could do some real damage with the fire-by-ranks order, giving them a total of 90 shots at 12".

At the top of my list, however, is a Leman Russ squadron with three Punishers. That's three S5 Heavy 20 weapons. Did someone say DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA?

So, what do you use when you'd rather scream and fill the air with lead than just grab a plasmagun?


They can get up to 150 if you take the full 50 man squad. Also take the special character to give them their own version of Without Number and they should be able to take out anything short of Toughness 7 and higher and Vehicles. Not all 150 will hit, but it's kind of cool how many dice you'll need to roll. Use it against Terminators ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022408.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
You want Dakka? Twin-lined dakka guns! I run 12 Biker boys in every army just for the shooting (and cover saves for other units)!! Best Dakka per point for the orks!!!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022711.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
PipeAlley wrote:
You want Dakka? Twin-lined dakka guns! I run 12 Biker boys in every army just for the shooting (and cover saves for other units)!! Best Dakka per point for the orks!!!


:O wut? 12 biker boyz is over 300 points! I could have 30 shootaboyz with 3x big shootas for less than that! Not that I'm saying they are bad, just that for the points, there are indeed orks with more dakka. (neat thing about bikerboyz though, is that they are essentially shoota boyz and slugga boyz combined )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022761.page GMT The pew-pew factor. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022876.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Will most likely kill any unit in the game that can be hurt by S4. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022975.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1022975.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
It was i think 3 squads of Warwalker w. Scatter Lasers, 3 9 man Squads of Warp Spiders. 1200 points minimum.


Someone posted the 45 - 135 shots with lootas

3 Battlewagons w/ 4 Rocket launches each 24

Then I think Fast Attack was Warbikes w/ Rockit launchas


It was some ridiculous volume of fire like 250 ST7/8 shots a turn though.
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Jayden63 wrote:15 burna boys in a battlewagon. Drive up, place the template. Cover 6-8 guys and roll 90 - 120 to wound rolls.

Will most likely kill any unit in the game that can be hurt by S4.


This.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1024248.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1024248.page GMT The pew-pew factor.
Owain wrote:Still haven't heard any feedback on those Punishers; will my opponent just refuse to play when I pull out those 60 hit dice?


I'm not a fan of taking 3 punishers. Taking one punisher with pask and HBs is always nice. 29 BS4 shots. Can really punish a big group of ork boyz or a large squad of gaunts or guard/kroot. Also can take down landspeeder squads, squads of kans, or pop chimeras and rhinos.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1024315.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/259509/1024315.page GMT