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				<title>I really want an alpha legion list thats not crap!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hi All, <br /> <br /> I have recently saw that Legion book and loved it. So much so that i really want to start a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>  alpha legion themed army. <br /> <br /> I have gone so far as to dream up the color theme and some of the models that i would need.<br /> <br /> The problem is, the list is basically all inf, which seems to really suck with the current codex, and there are no disposable troop options.<br /> <br /> Can anyone suggest a list i could use or some handy hints? i dont like to come second!<br /> <br /> I like the idea of chosen who infiltrate backed up by havocks will all sorts of weapons and demon princes.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Alpha]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mechanized chaos lists are still strong for non-cult legions.<br /> <br /> 4+ rhinos with havoc launchers and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads, dual melta, some fighty flying prince(s).  Then add tanks and oblits for fire support and that's a competitive army.<br /> <br /> Infiltrating chosen and havoks are not the most competitive units in the codex.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Flavius Infernus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You could settle for a Chosen Squad to outflank in a rhino, then other rhino <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> squads.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:53:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sanctjud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sadly, the all infiltrating Alpha Legion army is a thing of Codex: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> 3.5.  It isn't really possible to rebuild that army in the current incarnation of the codex.  You can approximate it, but at a non-cost effective manner, and you probably won't have a very effective fighting force as a result.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:46:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Saldiven]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your best bet is probably to heed the suggestions above- go mechanized marines.  You can steer away from cult marines to keep more to the Alpha Legion fluff.  <br /> <br /> Since Infiltrating the army en masse is no longer an option, a unit or two of Chosen can give you some of the Alpha Legion infiltrating “feel”.  Generally I think they’re not as good using regular Infiltrate as they are Outflanking.  Two smallish squads of Outflanking Chosen can do a pretty solid job messing with your opponent’s backfield, contesting his home objective/s, and presenting off-table threats that he’s not sure of where they’ll hit.  <br /> <br /> For a while I was running two units of 5 Chosen in Rhinos, armed with two melta guns and three flamers.  You can obviously change this up however you want, but five special weapons is definitely the way to get the most bang for your buck.  One nice variation to add, if you’re going assault-oriented, is to put a naked Aspiring Champion in one of your Troops squads which is moving forward, and an Aspiring Champ in one of the Chosen squads as well.  Then add a Greater Daemon.  Half the time he’s going to show up before the Chosen are on the board, but occasionally you’ll get the Chosen first and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(42);'>GD</span> after, and he’ll pop out and be nasty.  It’s not a very reliable combo, but when it works it’s a ton of fun.  <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:38:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mannahnin]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Infiltrating just doesn't work well enough for chosen <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span>.  The best I've seen them used is outflanking.  The infiltrate rules seem to be a hinder rather than a help in terms of an offensive mentality.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:48:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Sanctjud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A couple units of chosen forward deployed can provide a neat place for some demons or a greater demon to summon from.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:43:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ whitedragon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:I really want an alpha legion list thats not crap!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think it's do-able.  I lack a codex so I'm guessing for points.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Not a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>, just doesn't feel right. Maybe a sorc running with the troops?<br /> Elites: 3x units of 10 Chosen.  Fill those weapons up.<br /> Troops: 3x units of 10 marines.  <br /> Heavy: 1-2x full units of havocs.<br /> Fill with demons after that and break them into groups of 6-7+.<br /> I'm not too up and up on the alpha legion fluff but it's the whole infiltrating army thing.  Rhino's don't quite feel right but if I'm wrong mech up the whole dang thing.  Balance out all your weapons to your needs and wants.  If I'm counting right you're looking at 20+ special weapons not counting the havocs/combi-weapons.  This should be around 2k I think.<br /> More fluff?  Swap the demons for rebel guard models you've "freshly converted".<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:29:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Humblesteve]]></author>
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