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				<description><![CDATA[ okay, so I'm new to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, but I get the general rules, I play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and wanted some pointers, ideas, tactics or just help in general, thankye very much]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:03:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>dark angels+ nwb = I'm not to ashamed to ask for help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Tips:<br /> <br /> 1. Laundry Day is every Thursday.<br /> 2. One machine for colors, the another for whites.<br /> 3. When choosing between greens and whites, generally go with both.<br /> 4. Each color needs to be applied appropriately when worn, else the whole thing falls apart.<br /> <br /> :-D]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:38:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, Sanctjud made some tips about the colors and laundry for the robes.<br /> <br /> You have to decide what army (company) you want to field:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span>, or just an army with Tactical Marines as a core.<br /> I'd opt for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> since the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Termies look cool and the army is competitive. <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:25:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> do mech pretty well.  Yes they are slightly more expensive than basic <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>, but they do have the AV14 skimmer.  This is probably the main reason to play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> over <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>.  (or if you want terminator troops)<br /> <br /> I believe the basic mech list is:<br /> <br /> Sammael in landspeeder<br /> <br /> 3x Dreadnought <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span><br /> 3x (10x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> marines, flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>, rhino)<br /> 3x Landspeeder <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>,<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span><br /> 3x Predator <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> sponsons<br /> <br /> For 1850 pts I believe<br /> <br /> Pretty straightforward mech list.  The Sammael landspeeder really makes it on par with the cheaper vanilla <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> lists.<br /> <br /> <br /> Predators, landspeeders, sammael pop transports.  Landspeeders and Dreads pop heavy armor.  And then you have a ton of shooting to deal with infantry.<br /> <br /> If you want to go Fluffy and go <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span>, the troops can be altered to be Terminators or Bikes.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:09:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Timmah]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The only thing I would alter to Timmah's list is to consider using Razorbacks.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> can still take 5 man units with special weapons so they make Razorback spam very viable.  Having a whole bunch of mobile twin-linked <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>'s can be devastating.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:42:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ozymandias]]></author>
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				<title>Re:dark angels+ nwb = I'm not to ashamed to ask for help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I myself just started a new <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> army and couldn't find any reasons to use the old dark angels codex. I use it all as count as vanilla marines with my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> models. The only possiable reason to use the old codex is for Raven wing over White scars build because of the ability to take more landspeeders that way. The whole deathwing army never seemed to good to be because your almost always 2 to 1 odds against you.<br /> <br /> If your interested in a fun army though and really wanna stick with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> book, I would go strict 2nd company all the way. Turboboost for the win <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:03:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spartacusbob]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Believe me, Sammaels landspeeder is really makes up for the point difference.  And yes, you also have the option of spamming razorbacks instead of rhinos.  (worse generally <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>, but its a different playstyle and such)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:11:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Timmah]]></author>
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				<title>Re:dark angels+ nwb = I'm not to ashamed to ask for help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ One things for sure, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>+Anything=awesome.<br /> <br /> But if your having problems Private Message me your army list and ill give you some pointers, i have been doing dark angels many years so it should help.<br /> <br /> If you cant be bothered doing that my tips would be,<br /> if your playing a shooty army Termies+Drop Pod=Dead Enemies<br /> <br /> If your playing a combaty army<br />      Scouts+Sniper Rifles+strong enemies X the above tip on weak enemies=aaaaaaaaaaay<br /> <br /> Hope that helps,]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:12:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tonytiger89]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also, if you run <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> you get the cool apothecary that ignores 1 save (any kind) per turn.  Which is always fun to use with vehicle cover saves.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:25:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Timmah]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sammael's landspeeder is indeed awesome and any competitive force short of pure <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> should include him.  I've never had an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> that has been as effective as Sammael.  From turn 1 on he's influencing the game.<br /> <br /> Razorbacks vs. Rhinos:  I don't know if the 'backs are objectively worse but they are different.  I feel that I get enough <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span> from the Dreads, Landspeeders and Sammael's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(5);'>AC</span> so I like the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>'s on the 'backs but it really comes down to playstyle.  Razorbacks are more mobile and the squad as a whole is cheaper so you get more but Rhinos pack more of a punch and you have more variety in Heavy Weapons (so you can take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> or Lascannon).  I've played both ways and there have been times when I had one and wished I had the other in both layouts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:35:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ozymandias]]></author>
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				<title>Re:dark angels+ nwb = I'm not to ashamed to ask for help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ My friend Plays <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and he had a brutal strategy, but it is not necesarily competetive.<br /> <br /> He had Samael in the flying Landraider w/ His elites as termies. All of his bikes that he took as  trrops had Teleport Homers and first turn he had 3 bike squads and 2 termie squads up on my side of the field, I was royally boned]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ PotionsN'Balms]]></author>
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