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Also is this something taught to only "advanced" students or to any student?

Thanks,

GG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046135.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046135.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046141.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046141.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? Small amount of the math: 10th grade physics.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046144.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046144.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:My highschool didn't teach any of that. But, that's because I live in south Georgia. Fortunately, I studied that on my own.


Why don't they teach it in South Georgia? I went to a private religious school and I was taught the basics of physical cosmology. I don't think it is a religious issue if that is what they're thinking.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046149.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046149.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? UK (or used to be.)

It was only a bit of basic stuff about general relativity and so on.

Most of O level and A level Physics is concerned with more concrete science; electricity, harmonics, wavicle theory, radioactivity and so on. Things you can actually do in the lab.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046150.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046150.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:My highschool didn't teach any of that. But, that's because I live in south Georgia. Fortunately, I studied that on my own.


To be honest, I don't remember being taught this in highschool either. I went to highschool in central Florida.

GG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046153.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046162.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046162.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Kilkrazy wrote:I was taught in O level Physics, which is between 13 and 16 in the UK (or used to be.)

It was only a bit of basic stuff about general relativity and so on.

Most of O level and A level Physics is concerned with more concrete science; electricity, harmonics, wavicle theory, radioactivity and so on. Things you can actually do in the lab.


As far as I know, we didn't use 0 level and A levels un the U.S. Can you elaborate?

Also I assume that physics aren't taught to evryone, only the advanced students?

thanks,

GG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046166.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
THERE ARE 100 CENTIMETERS IN A METER? NO gak! PLEASE SPEND THE FIRST MONTH OF EVERY SEMESTER EXPLAINING THIS FACT.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046171.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046171.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Grignard wrote:
OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:My highschool didn't teach any of that. But, that's because I live in south Georgia. Fortunately, I studied that on my own.


Why don't they teach it in South Georgia? I went to a private religious school and I was taught the basics of physical cosmology. I don't think it is a religious issue if that is what they're thinking.


Well, I can count on one hand the number of teachers that were actually worth their salt. When it boils down to it, my hometown is a very small rural town with lots of bigotry, "God-complexes", religious hate, and low income families. The school, if I may be so bold as to call it that, was barely funded enough to keep the lights on, so to speak. I mean, everyone in the school system was worried when the accrediation process came around. Many thought we would lose accrediation and be screwed.

Simply put, the teachers didn't give a rat's ass what we learned, as long as they kept their jobs and got paid. I was fortunate enough to have a few teachers that actually cared enough to help their students.

Those are my reasons for why I think they didn't teach it.

Or, I was asleep in class when they went over it. One of the two. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046181.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
generalgrog wrote:
Also I assume that physics aren't taught to evryone, only the advanced students?


That's been my experience. In my district it was an elective. Though it didn't have any requirement, most people avoided it if they didn't want to take on a challenge.


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OverbossGhurzubMoga wrote:
Those are my reasons for why I think they didn't teach it.


What usually stops any given school from teaching a given subject is the lack of a qualified teacher. Generally, you need more than a basic education degree in order to teach something technical like physics, calculus, chemistry, etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046190.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046190.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
generalgrog wrote:
Kilkrazy wrote:I was taught in O level Physics, which is between 13 and 16 in the UK (or used to be.)

It was only a bit of basic stuff about general relativity and so on.

Most of O level and A level Physics is concerned with more concrete science; electricity, harmonics, wavicle theory, radioactivity and so on. Things you can actually do in the lab.


As far as I know, we didn't use 0 level and A levels un the U.S. Can you elaborate?

Also I assume that physics aren't taught to evryone, only the advanced students?

thanks,

GG


O levels are the exams UK pupils used to take at 15 or 16 years. A levels are the 17/18-year-old exams, equivalent to US end of first year of university exams.

Basic science (Physics/Chemistry/Biology) used to be taught to everyone in the UK at O level, except for more or less remedial students. It may have changed now. I was at school 30+ years ago.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046282.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Everyone had to take chemistry, biology, and select 2 out of four other science classes (biology 2, earth science, and a few others) for a total of 4. You also had to take math through algebra 2. Since I had algebra in middle school, I took Geometry, Algebra 2, Advanced Math, and Calculus in high school. I also took Biology 2.


To the original poster, we studied the cosmos in middle school. I think 7th grade.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046430.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046430.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? UK taken when you're about 15))

Not in much detail though, and its irritating the way they even give the slightest mention to the **** creationist views without putting them in their place...

*starts ranting and raving* ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046450.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? UK, at the end of Year ten, straight after the mocks.

There are two science GCSE's, one you can get at the end of Year 10, the other exam you take with all the other exams at the end of Year 11.

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The study of astronomy should actually be starting, according to the national science standards... as soon as they can make an observation....
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=4962

It turns out they should be exposed during kindergarten.... which is not always the case.

As far as the big bang... our students construct the model of the big bang themselves during astronomy by studying the background radiation left over, as well as dopplershift observations of galaxies. From this data they build a big explosion model.

However... Steven Hawkings has come up with model that has not been disproven yet to be more accurate than the big bang... and also eliminates this need for a "creation" event... or Big Bang.

This is taught to any student possible but typically only advanced students choose to take the classes it is touched upon.
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As for learning about the big bang theory I'm having trouble recalling when that happened but I want to say it was in elementary school but it wasn't some in-depth theory discussion; more like the teacher briefly hit upon it and constructed basic models of plants orbiting the sun, etc. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046558.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046558.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Cane wrote:My highschool had a beginners course to physics that was combined with chemistry as well for sophomores; called integrated physics and chemistry (IPC).

As for learning about the big bang theory I'm having trouble recalling when that happened but I want to say it was in elementary school but it wasn't some in-depth theory discussion; more like the teacher briefly hit upon it and constructed basic models of plants orbiting the sun, etc.


hehe plants orbit in the sun : )

.... btw... what did they teach you about the earths orbit around the sun? Is A or B more correct? (ignore the size of the sun vs size of Earth)

A


B
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frgsinwntr wrote:Is A or B more correct? (ignore the size of the sun vs size of Earth)

A


B


Aren't they both correct?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046956.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1046956.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Orkeosaurus wrote:
frgsinwntr wrote:Is A or B more correct? (ignore the size of the sun vs size of Earth)

A


B


Aren't they both correct?
It is a trick question, because the scales are FUBAR.

The top one is actually more correct, because Most Holy Terras orbit is in no way whatsoever circular like that, it is, in fact, more oval shaped, though not to the degree in the first picture.

In any case, these pictures are exagerated to show two very different aspects of Holy Terras Orbit. One showcases the Most Holy Seasons, while the other shows the Most Holy Orbital fluctuation ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047005.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047005.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
I was thrown off by thinking of the most holy second chart of the Adeptus Astrologicus as only trying to display the changing of the most holy seasons, and not thinking of it in terms of displaying the most holy orbit of the seat of the Imperium's might (which is elliptical, by His will).

And yeah, Sol and Holy Terra (and Luna) would be far smaller, in both instances (with Holy Terra having about 1% of Sol's diameter, I think).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047026.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047026.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
youngblood wrote:Never! Christian school. I've had to do lots of extracurricular studying


What does it being a Christian school have to do with it? I was in Catholic school my entire school career up until College and we learned it.

Of course, we were being taught be Jesuits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047041.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047041.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? HS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047055.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Platuan4th wrote:What does it being a Christian school have to do with it? I was in Catholic school my entire school career up until College and we learned it.
I went to a Catholic School here in Ireland (not by Choice, it was that or the Community College a.k.a Place where kids are locked up till they turn 15 and go work in the mines) and I can assure you, I have learnt more from Wikipedia than I learnt at that school.

YMMV ofc


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avantgarde wrote:The hell is cosmology? I learned totally cool and not nerdy stuff like the Krebs Cycle or proton pumps in HS.
OMG you lrnt about t3h Krebs Cycle too? That was so awsomes!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047061.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047061.page GMT Re:What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
I'd be surprised if they taught it though. I'll ask some folk that I know did science in upper school.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047063.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Gwar! wrote:I went to a Catholic School here in Ireland (not by Choice, it was that or the Community College a.k.a Place where kids are locked up till they turn 15 and go work in the mines) and I can assure you, I have learnt more from Wikipedia than I learnt at that school.
Jesus, I remember some of the people from my science class.

"There's bacteria in the air?! That is so trifling!*"

*Yes, that was the word they used.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047070.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Platuan4th wrote:
youngblood wrote:Never! Christian school. I've had to do lots of extracurricular studying


What does it being a Christian school have to do with it? I was in Catholic school my entire school career up until College and we learned it.

Of course, we were being taught be Jesuits.


Well Catholics accept Big Bang theory, so it stands to reason you would be taught it. Lamarte', the guy who basically worked out the theory, was a catholic priest. Youngblood probabaly didin't go to a Catholic school.

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On a different note though... why is it even important when it is taught. It is part of basic knowledge and should be learned. Then again I did have a crazy aunt who gave me an hour long lecture one time after going to a science museum that I "had better just forget that big bang theory stuff" because "it goes against the bible" Yeah... needless to say I did not follow her brand of indoctrination and brainwashing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047103.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Gwar! wrote:

Aren't they both correct? It is a trick question, because the scales are FUBAR.

The top one is actually more correct, because Most Holy Terras orbit is in no way whatsoever circular like that, it is, in fact, more oval shaped, though not to the degree in the first picture.

In any case, these pictures are exagerated to show two very different aspects of Holy Terras Orbit. One showcases the Most Holy Seasons, while the other shows the Most Holy Orbital fluctuation


woohoo! I get to do this!

Sorry Gwar! you are incorrect!

the distance during the year varies by only 5%... the orbit of the earth around the sun is NEARLY circular...

It is called elliptical in books only because it is not a PERFECT circle


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generalgrog wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
youngblood wrote:Never! Christian school. I've had to do lots of extracurricular studying


What does it being a Christian school have to do with it? I was in Catholic school my entire school career up until College and we learned it.

Of course, we were being taught be Jesuits.


Well Catholics accept Big Bang theory, so it stands to reason you would be taught it. Lamarte', the guy who basically worked out the theory, was a catholic priest. Youngblood probabaly didin't go to a Catholic school.

GG


the big bang is considered a creation event by catholics... and is thus accepted

really pissed them off when Steven Hawkings went to their science conference in 1981 with a new Theory]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047494.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
A lot of work on cosmology and infinities has been inspired by thinking about the nature of God.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047545.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047545.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
frgsinwntr wrote:woohoo! I get to do this!

Sorry Gwar! you are incorrect!

the distance during the year varies by only 5%... the orbit of the earth around the sun is NEARLY circular...

It is called elliptical in books only because it is not a PERFECT circle
Well, the 2nd picture is a perfect circle, so it is incorrect.

As I did point out, the variation was exaggerated.
SO no, I was not incorrect ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047553.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
generalgrog wrote:I'm not looking to debate the issue, I'm just asking if anyone knows what year of highschool, do kids start learning about cosmology and the different theories of the origin of the universe?

Also is this something taught to only "advanced" students or to any student?

Thanks,

GG


None of that relates to football, so all right thinking high schools ignored it, and left that to Austin treehuggers.
In truth that whole high school thing is a bit hazy to me at this point. I remember working during that time. Thats about it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047563.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Fallen668 wrote: Then again I did have a crazy aunt who gave me an hour long lecture one time after going to a science museum that I "had better just forget that big bang theory stuff" because "it goes against the bible" Yeah... needless to say I did not follow her brand of indoctrination and brainwashing.


Here we go with the flame baiting, calling people that disagree with you crazy, and or indoctrinators or brainwashers.

I guess Fred Hoyle, and Steven Hawking are also crazy brainwashers since both of them are esteemed scientists that don't believe in Big Bang theory.

GG]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047684.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? IT DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS THREAD. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047734.page GMT Re:What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1047916.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
frgsinwntr wrote:
Gwar! wrote:

Aren't they both correct? It is a trick question, because the scales are FUBAR.

The top one is actually more correct, because Most Holy Terras orbit is in no way whatsoever circular like that, it is, in fact, more oval shaped, though not to the degree in the first picture.

In any case, these pictures are exagerated to show two very different aspects of Holy Terras Orbit. One showcases the Most Holy Seasons, while the other shows the Most Holy Orbital fluctuation


woohoo! I get to do this!

Sorry Gwar! you are incorrect!

the distance during the year varies by only 5%... the orbit of the earth around the sun is NEARLY circular...

It is called elliptical in books only because it is not a PERFECT circle


Ah but most honored Adept of the Astologicalomium, Adept Gwar clearly did state that bathed in the grace of the Holy God-Emperor most high, the jewel of humanity, the Holy Terra orbit is not skewed as shown in thine first diagramographologium. Adept Gwar was correct in his statement about the path that Holy Terra travels under the Emperor's Watchful Gaze in realspace, the Blazing Beacon of Divinity we call Sol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048251.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048258.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048258.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? IIRC, but the honors science students took it in 10th grade and again in 12th grade.

The great thing about science is that theories are just that, a theory. If another theory comes along that better reflects what we see then that theory becomes dominant. So far, the Big Bang is the most widely accepted theory.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048972.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048972.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Oh Well, do I realy need physics in life?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1048990.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Ozymandias wrote:The great thing about science is that theories are just that, a theory. If another theory comes along that better reflects what we see then that theory becomes dominant. So far, the Big Bang is the most widely accepted theory.

I agree. Most things are just theories, even religions (YES THEY ARE). If I think that The Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ is correct and are very vocal about it, and then you can prove to me that Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ is wrong, then I will happily shout from the rooftops naked that I was wrong about The Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ, all the while feeling like a prat, but also content in knowing that we are one step closer to knowing what the truth is.

As a Wise man once said "Science is not about getting the right answers, it is about finding out which answers are wrong."]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049014.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
kronk wrote:When I was in high school many moons ago, physics and calculus were advanced classes and electives. I took these.

Everyone had to take chemistry, biology, and select 2 out of four other science classes (biology 2, earth science, and a few others) for a total of 4. You also had to take math through algebra 2. Since I had algebra in middle school, I took Geometry, Algebra 2, Advanced Math, and Calculus in high school. I also took Biology 2.


To the original poster, we studied the cosmos in middle school. I think 7th grade.

High school in the US is like 15-18 or something right? In the Denmark we have what we call a gymnasium, its like 3 extra years after your 10 years required education. Here i learned physics (to the level of like circular motion, newtonian physics in 3D) calculus and advanced math was required, so was chemistry (to the level of basic quantum mechanics and thermodynamics).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049081.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049081.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Gwar! wrote:
Ozymandias wrote:The great thing about science is that theories are just that, a theory. If another theory comes along that better reflects what we see then that theory becomes dominant. So far, the Big Bang is the most widely accepted theory.

I agree. Most things are just theories, even religions (YES THEY ARE). If I think that The Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ is correct and are very vocal about it, and then you can prove to me that Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ is wrong, then I will happily shout from the rooftops naked that I was wrong about The Theory of Scientifical Science XYZ, all the while feeling like a prat, but also content in knowing that we are one step closer to knowing what the truth is.

As a Wise man once said "Science is not about getting the right answers, it is about finding out which answers are wrong."

Good to see you look at science vs. religion in a more reasonable light nowadays, Gwar. My religion is a theory, but so are the beliefs of atheists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049342.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049342.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
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Cheese Elemental wrote:Good to see you look at science vs. religion in a more reasonable light nowadays, Gwar. My religion is a theory, but so are the beliefs of atheists.
Welcome back BTW

And FYI, my feelings towards religion are the same as ever, I am just under police orders never to show them again ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049348.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1049348.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang? Hypothesis: A model for how the world works that is not backed up by experimental evidence.

Please don't confuse the two.
In scientific language a theory is something different than everyday language.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1050141.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1050141.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?
Da Boss wrote:Theory: A model for how the world works backed up by experimental evidence.
Hypothesis: A model for how the world works that is not backed up by experimental evidence.

Please don't confuse the two.
In scientific language a theory is something different than everyday language.




agreed... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1050568.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1050568.page GMT What year of highschool do they start teaching cosmology and big bang?

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Cheese Elemental wrote:
Good to see you look at science vs. religion in a more reasonable light nowadays, Gwar. My religion is a theory, but so are the beliefs of atheists.


1) Science and religion are non-overlapping (marginally overlapping?) magesteria. They can inform one another, but they do not necessarily have to do so.
2) Atheists don't need to have beliefs that pertain to the metaphysical.
3) Many atheists do have beliefs which pertain to the metaphysical.
4) Those atheists who do possess metaphysical beliefs are religious, despite their ignorant assertions to the contrary.

Religion is not the same thing as theism, though it is difficult to be an areligious theist. As such, simply being an atheist does not remove one from the category of religion.

Yes, I realize this is like the 5th time I've made a post like this. The lack of understanding with respect to the relevant terminology annoys me that much.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1051059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261207/1051059.page GMT