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				<title>Vampire Counts list(would like criticism) 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok so this is my first list i am posting on Dakka and was looking for some help on it i would like some criticism  on it please<br /> i usually play magic heavy <br /> <br /> <br /> Vampire 208-general <br /> staff of sorcery <br /> enchanted shield<br /> dark acolyte <br /> avatar of death<br /> on nightmare  <br /> <br /> vampire 200<br /> master of black arts(might change to dark acolyte and avatar of death)<br /> book of arkhan<br /> <br /> vampire 195<br /> dispell scroll ( use to be sceptre <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span> noirot)<br /> warbanner<br /> dark acolyte <br /> summon ghouls<br /> <br /> crypt ghouls 88(ten ghouls)<br /> crypt ghast<br /> <br />  crypt ghouls 88(ten ghouls)<br /> crypt ghats<br /> <br /> crypt ghouls 88(ten ghouls)<br /> crypt ghats <br /> <br /> corps cart 100<br /> unholy lodestone<br /> <br /> grave guard 205 (10 guard)<br /> great weapons<br /> full command<br /> banner of barrows <br /> <br /> dire wolfs 40 (5 wolfs)<br /> <br /> dire wolfs 40 (5 wolfs)<br /> <br /> skeletons 285(30 skeletons)<br /> full comand<br /> banner of endless nightmare  <br />  <br /> <br /> <br /> total 1497]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:37:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zer0]]></author>
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				<title>Vampire Counts list(would like criticism) 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So, how are you going to actually kill your opponents units? The Grave Guard could kill something, but they are the only unit that can. The Skeletons seem totally out of place, as do the Dire Wolves.<br /> <br /> I would rethink the entire list. At the moment, you have 3 Vampires (9 PD), some Core units that won't do anything, and a small Grave Guard unit. You need to have more units that can actually do some damage (Black Knights, Varghulf, Grave Guard).]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:21:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Airmaniac]]></author>
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				<title>Vampire Counts list(would like criticism) 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you're starting with units of 10 ghouls and you don't have a vamp lord then you need to take summon ghouls on all of your vamps.  Give your general dark acolyte, summon ghouls, crown of command and black periapt then keep him out of combat.  Give your second one dark acolyte, summon ghouls and the book of arkhan.  If you're going to make the last one your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> then you can't take a dispel scroll.  Honestly, I never make a vampire a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>.  Wight kings are much better suited for the role.  If you're going to make a vamp your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> then give him dread knight and infinite hatred or something.  I'd probably drop him altogether and mount a necro on the corpse cart.  <br /> <br /> I'd consolidate the ghouls.  Run two units of 15.  3 units of 10 will be too hard to raise to a decent size with just a couple of normal vamps with summon ghouls.  Trim down the skeleton unit.  You only need 20 or 25 of them.  I'd just run 20.<br /> <br /> Drop the grave guard unless you can afford to run a solid block (at least 20) of them with a wight king <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> with Drakenhoff banner.  Black knights are a cheaper, more versatile alternative.  They hit hard, they can charge through terrain and they're more maneuverable.  <br /> <br /> At 1500 points you really need to start thinking about taking a race choice.  Vargulfs are awesome.  They hit extremely hard and they're tough to kill.  They're well worth their points.  Blood knights are expensive but they can be hard for your opponent to deal with in low point games.  Black coaches are good but there won't be enough magic on the table to make them really worth their points.  A few wraiths with a banshee is incredible against 90% of the armies at 1500.  Of course, any army that can deal with them will probably be able to deal with them easily.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:12:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ artyboy]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Vampire Counts list(would like criticism) 1500</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ cool thanks for the help[ i kill stuff by outnumbering it and having them run in to a unit of zombies behind them]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:27:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zer0]]></author>
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