<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Blood angels Vs. Orks"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Blood angels Vs. Orks
1750, guy I play against is going to go full cheese ball too.

I don't have any attack bikes, assault terminators or Land raiders but have everything else.

I usually bring Dante and an honour guard. Figured I could do well with a Ba'al predator too.

Thoughts and suggestions please.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1057045.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1057045.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1057055.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1057055.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058198.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058198.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks
For any other advice it would help to know what kind of ork list you'll be fighting. But decent assault troops, blast weapons, high str high rate of fire weapons and high av vehicles are all good tools for bringing to a fight against orks.

If he's running nob bikers then either assault termies, vindictors or multi-melta spam is a must for taking them down.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058279.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058279.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks Bring some Tactical units with flamers in Rhinos.
Two of these units working in concert could easily take down a maxed-out mob. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058512.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058512.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058524.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058524.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks
Oh to help you out - jump packing your death company with one of those cleric things around my flank is a bit of a pain.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058617.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
As a reverse... what are an ork's tactics against a Dante/Mephiston combo?

Orks cannot block psychic powers.
But if an Ork mob charges your precious HQ's they are pretty dead. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058637.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058637.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1058812.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
I would take Dante & Corbulo for preferred enemy and furious charge.

G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059141.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059141.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
Noone can armor-overload like blood angels. Max baal preds, max rhinos, carrying either tactcial squads or assault squads (remember assault marines get their rhino for free). even with 2+ groups of lootas he won't be able to stop 6+ rhinos. (also, ork nobs hate assault cannons, no FNP is why, cannon is AP4, and rending so it will pop trukks, fast vehicle on a good roll so it can get to side armor on battlewagons and break that too.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059201.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059201.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks FNP on a six, there are scarier things for Nobs.
What sort of orks does your friend play? The different ork lists require very different strategies to beat.
Horde: You want lots of templates and flamers, and lots of guns. Then, hold an assault unit behind your line and countercharge.
Battlewagon Rush: You need to be able to take down the wagons, and then have something that can either shoot the boyz inside to death or assault them. Focus fire on the KFF wagon if there is one, the rest will go down much easier once it is gone. Try and get side or rear shots.
Nob Bikers: High strength (8) AP4 or better shooting is your best friend. Vindicators are okay, powerfists are good, especially in large numbers. Without the nice 3++ save with storm shields, the usual countertactic of TH/SS termies isn't as good.
Shooty Orks: Deep strike and gut them They're flimsy as hell to shooting or close combat.
Trukks: Pop the trukks and laugh. Get rid of a KFF as early as possible again, but really, this shouldn't be hard to deal with, especially in KP games.

The only other build I can think of is Kan Wall, but I've never played it or played against it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059375.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks
He runs a mix of horde with battle wagons
Not too sure what's going to happen after that.


I was thinking of taking two baal predators with a terminator squad for the assault cannons or a Vindicator instead

Dante, with Meph and a command squad

Take tac squads in rhinos with flamers and rocket launchers

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059554.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059556.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059556.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
Da Boss wrote:Assault cannons only block FNP on a six, there are scarier things for Nobs.


I thought if you ignored a model's armor they couldn't take their FNP, in fact the BGB says that you can't take your FNP against any other wounds against which no armor saves can ever be taken. AP4 ignores the nobs armor, they can never take their armor save against it, so it ignores FNP...I thought.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059768.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059768.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks It's sort of easy to make that mistake though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059774.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
IMO Vindicator is better than terminators, it just seems able to do more, it's a S10 Pie, so it will kill hordes, AP1 so it definitely ignores FNP, will wipe out battlewagons, and is hard for their shots to kill.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059785.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1059965.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1060344.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1060344.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks
Baal and Vindie will do a wonderful job of thinning down the horde but really shooting is the fools way of getting rid of big mobs of ork. A decent assault unit (DC or 10 assault marines with a p-fist) will wipe them out in one turn, a Baal needs 4 or 5.

Baal and Vindie will be tough for the ork player to kill but don't help you shut down the Battlewagon rush too quickly. Either a devvy squad or just a lot of lascannons in tac squads/dreads/razorbacks will do the job and multi-melta toting speeders or bikes will be boss as well.

Once you take the wagons out you can shoot the boyz as they advance and finally finish them off with assault marines (I would keep the jump packs on myself as that 18" charge range keeps you out of anything but a waaagh charge. Boyz lose when they don't get to charge and jump packs stop them charging, rhinos don't.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1060390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1060390.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
Green Blow Fly wrote:Landraiders are pretty invulnerable to orks, especially if you keep moving them over 6".

I would take Dante & Corbulo for preferred enemy and furious charge.

G

Well, Land Raiders can be blown by those d*** power klaws.
It recognized that at the recent GT final. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061253.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061253.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
Celtic Strike wrote:as a Blood angels player, ...I don't have any...assault marines.


Say what?!!
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061293.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks
G]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1061380.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks
I think the problem is tho that if I load up on heavy support and HQ I won't have any points for jump marines and Rhinos]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1063011.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1063011.page GMT Blood angels Vs. Orks BA force without corbulo is losing out on too much. a 12" bubble of furious charge in the middle of your force is pure win.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1063140.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1063140.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1067455.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1067455.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1072191.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1072191.page GMT Re:Blood angels Vs. Orks PKs.bring lots of power weapons.and it should be an intereresting battle report so please do 1 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1072387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/261909/1072387.page GMT