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I'm not seeing the real weakness of a chaos daemon army. I've paged through the codex, but the thing is so convoluted and all the abilities spread to different areas of the codex it's difficult to get a grasp. The "everyone gets invulnerable saves" and plainly ignoring pretty much every base convention of other armies is perplexing me.

It "seems" that in a non-killpoint game I could negate deepstrike with some WON gaunt screens preventing assaulters while multiple devourer carnies /HT's shred everything, with some additional punch supplied by genestealers or CC carnies.

Thoughts/comments on beating chaos daemons with nids, or other armies to point me in the right direction in what I should be going for?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120256.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120756.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120786.page GMT TL devourer shots as possible whilst negating potential charge situations. If they get the charge counter with implant attack stealers, tyrants and fexes.

If you have a healthy smattering of devourers throughout your list his deepstriking units won't be surviving if they assault into your deployment zone. One less thing to worry about. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120941.page GMT
Also, hide the big bugs and try and avoid getting them charged. Having invul's makes fexes and tyrants a lot less effective. Even a weak unit like daemonettes can take down a tyrant if there's enough of them... Having a save vs. not having a save is what kills the effectiveness of the big ones. At least with fearless saves. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1120992.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121702.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121702.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121775.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121775.page GMT OP basically has the right of it. Put a screen of gaunts in front of your devourers and blast the Daemons in threat order. They charge the gaunts, kill them, you back up and shoot them again. They move + run towards you, you give em a third shot and charge with preferred enemy stealers and monsters that get preferred enemy by being near them.

Things that can derail your plan:

#1: Kairos is public enemy #1. With him in the mix it's extremely difficult to kill bloodcrushers and Daemon Princes. He has to go down yesterday.

#2: Soulgrinders don't take devourer fire, so you have to kill them with charges from your monstrous creatures, but the grinders are faster than said creatures. They are difficult to handle, but Zoey's can lend a big hand.

#3: The Masque can thwart your positioning and devourer edge. She's quite possibly more dangerous than Kairos. Another model that needs to go down yesterday. If she's not in his 6" bubble, I'd say shoot her pre-Kairos.

With these particular caveats in mind, it's an easy game. Devourers + gaunt screen are > than crushers + other fighting Daemons. As long as Kairos doesn't go on a saving streak you should be able to kill them easily enough.

In a KP game that'll give it to you.
In a drawfest you're likely to draw, you won't be able to destroy all their guys and cross the board fast enough, unless they were silly enough to put it within outflank range.
In the multi-objective mission you've probably got the win, just spread out your remaining gaunts/stealers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/265958/1121786.page GMT
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